Certifications for dealing with Public Aquaria

You guys have been a customer for a long time :lol:

That's great! I was hoping to stir up some of the people WE know in this post. And I don't mean to really hide who I am, except at first glance. I just dont want to have what I say mistaken for an official opinion of the institution. Plus, I may at some point want to post images of a pound a day ozone gen or a 10 foot protein skimmer. And we can not publish behind the scenes images. But I would so long as nobody;-) knows where it is.

And sorry I'm not familiar with your product. But I think I know what it is. Commissary buys food under advice of the animal staff.

BAR? No, but my cousin is a lawyer:hmm5: AZA and WAZA as institution. AALSO for me. Whats BAR, maybe I/we should be.


--John
 
Plus, I may at some point want to post images of a pound a day ozone gen or a 10 foot protein skimmer. And we can not publish behind the scenes images. But I would so long as nobody;-) knows where it is.

Couldn't figure out your location ;) :D

My 1g per day ozone generator is suddenly feeling small and inadequate :eek2:
 
Deal with them for what? I sell to a ton and did nothing special, but I sell feeds.

Livestock primarily, I'm looking to sell or trade rare specimens. I have some that I culture, and would like to see if I can't expand those channels and connections. I thought that meant being certified. I'm glad this thread has gotten a lot of responses, my business is most likely going to talk to the aquariums in our area and see what happens but any more information that can be given is much appreciated.
Regards,
Nick
 
So how many individuals of how many species are you trying to sell? If your an individual and have say 5 individuals from 3 species then you could get lucky and sell them all to public aquaria. Trading could be more difficult as there are typically more restrictions with transferring rare specimens out of any sort of official institution than into it and it would be preferred to go to another public aquaria. From a business aspect individuals have much more disposable income and incentive to acquire these kinds of animals. It may only be $1000 each but at home I could set up a tank and house two for $3k total in a dedicated system and ten minutes a day. At a public aquarium that could cost from $10-100k for the display and $10k a year to maintain them, you haven't given much info of what your selling and if you had it wouldn't be much easier to estimate. You may make a few sales to public aquariums but long term the public is your market. From a business perspective you could either command a higher price for sustainable aquaculture or undercut imports by 10% for market share. Either way if they are so expensive you can only sell 10 a year that may or may not work for you as a hobbyist or business. Finding the middle ground on price and making a real rarity available to the masses for $2-500 and fairly consistent supply is your best bet for selling a decent number a year. Selling 4x as manny at half the cost still makes you twice the income, profits per work hour though may skew that out of favor, find the middle ground.
 
I traded reptiles with several major zoos- but what I had to trade was only available from me, as we were the first to captive breed the animals. Selling was out of the question even though we had all applicable license and paperwork. If it is a local zoo or aquarium, it is much easier- but not a viable money maker.
 
So how many individuals of how many species are you trying to sell? If your an individual and have say 5 individuals from 3 species then you could get lucky and sell them all to public aquaria. Trading could be more difficult as there are typically more restrictions with transferring rare specimens out of any sort of official institution than into it and it would be preferred to go to another public aquaria. From a business aspect individuals have much more disposable income and incentive to acquire these kinds of animals. It may only be $1000 each but at home I could set up a tank and house two for $3k total in a dedicated system and ten minutes a day. At a public aquarium that could cost from $10-100k for the display and $10k a year to maintain them, you haven't given much info of what your selling and if you had it wouldn't be much easier to estimate. You may make a few sales to public aquariums but long term the public is your market. From a business perspective you could either command a higher price for sustainable aquaculture or undercut imports by 10% for market share. Either way if they are so expensive you can only sell 10 a year that may or may not work for you as a hobbyist or business. Finding the middle ground on price and making a real rarity available to the masses for $2-500 and fairly consistent supply is your best bet for selling a decent number a year. Selling 4x as manny at half the cost still makes you twice the income, profits per work hour though may skew that out of favor, find the middle ground.

That's some great information Epic, thank you very much.
I'll have my investors take a look at it.
Regards,
Nick
 
AZA's acquisition policy can be found here:

http://www.aza.org/ad-policy/

The meat of what you are looking for is in this excerpt:

Animals are only to be acquired from sources that are known to operate legally and conduct their business in a manner that reflects and/or supports the spirit and intent of the AZA Code of Professional Ethics as well as this policy. Any convictions of state, federal, or international wildlife laws should be reviewed, as well as any previous dealings with other AZA accredited institutions.

In effect this can mean just about any individual, LFS, or wholesaler so long as the institution does their due diligence to determine the source is on the up and up and following all applicable laws. I see no reason why an AZA institution couldn't purchase your captive bred fish.
 
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