Chemi Pure & Activated Carbon
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If what you say is true then how come countless aquarists have used it for 4o yrs or more with excellent results and alot of other companies have tried to copy it , what do you base your info on?
magnavore and API also use resins and what then of Purigen, you make some pretty biased claims yet thousands of aquarists use it for discus, african cichlids and of course Marine , I have used it for 35 yrs w ith excellent results and know a great many others who would strongly disagree with your biased and I believe wrong claims, You are just propagating The same old info that has been circulating for years!
magnavore and API also use resins and what then of Purigen, you make some pretty biased claims yet thousands of aquarists use it for discus, african cichlids and of course Marine , I have used it for 35 yrs w ith excellent results and know a great many others who would strongly disagree with your biased and I believe wrong claims, You are just propagating The same old info that has been circulating for years!
what do you base your info on?
The resin is an ion exchange resin and then do nothing in seawater but are fine for Freshwater. If you ask them they will tell you it is an ion excahnge resin (see below)
magnavore and API also use resins and what then of Purigen,
They are not ion excahnge resins but organic adsorption resins a different beast.
you make some pretty biased claims yet thousands of aquarists use it for discus, african cichlids and of course Marine
I said seawater and thousands of aquarists means nothing to me, as many are mislead like you. I do not sell anything but like the truth to be known. That is what most of this forum is about.
who would strongly disagree with your biased and I believe wrong claims
Well, prove me wrong. I have seen nobody that does not disagree with me once they know the facts. Go ahead and explain to me how an ion exchange resin works in seawater. The resin will be shot and worthless in seconds. Chemi-Pure is an ion excahnge resin and activated carbon and there are by far better activated carbon to use than the one in this product which is bitum based. They also use different grades of carbon which you never do in water filtration as it is self-defeating.
You are just propagating The same old info that has been circulating for years!
That is you not me
alot of other companies have tried to copy it
Who ? And make sure first you know what is in the other products first. An idiot can copy that Chem-Pure stuff, it is not some kind of super secret.
The activated carbons used in Chemi-Pure are the finest most powerful, and longest lasting that money can buy
This is called marketing hype and a line of BS you buy into. Fell free to send some to Norit or Calgon for an assay and see what they tell you
And many people have switched for Chemi-Pure to other products with better results. Most serious reefer consider Boyd's stuff "snake- oil".
What is a deionization resin ?
http://www.culliganmiami.com/pf5.html
Better yet ask the chem pure people how a DI resin works in seawater and what ions it is removing. Then ask them for a facts data sheet showing as such from lab. Run some adsorption test with Chemi-Pure vs other products to see what a colored dye remove rate is.
Chemi-Pure usually lasts for up to 6 months before it needs to be replaced.
This is also nonsense it will be 100 % biological way before that time and me useless way before that time. Fell free to call any activated carbon chemical engineering and ask then that or these other questions.
Their ad
The activated carbons filter particulates and waste while the ion exchange resins help remove nitrogen (ammonia and nitrate) build up which is harmful to your fish.
Yes, in freshwater but NOT seawater. Will it remove * some in seawater, yes but so will activated carbon. Try to save some fish with this stuff in seawater with high ammonia, it won't happen but will work in FW . Do you know how you regenerate a DI resin that removes ammonium ? You use table salt and seawater is 85 % table salt. So, how is that going to work by magic ?
If you want to believe in marketing hype have at it but I will do all I can to keep others from it, that is my job here
The resin is an ion exchange resin and then do nothing in seawater but are fine for Freshwater. If you ask them they will tell you it is an ion excahnge resin (see below)
magnavore and API also use resins and what then of Purigen,
They are not ion excahnge resins but organic adsorption resins a different beast.
you make some pretty biased claims yet thousands of aquarists use it for discus, african cichlids and of course Marine
I said seawater and thousands of aquarists means nothing to me, as many are mislead like you. I do not sell anything but like the truth to be known. That is what most of this forum is about.
who would strongly disagree with your biased and I believe wrong claims
Well, prove me wrong. I have seen nobody that does not disagree with me once they know the facts. Go ahead and explain to me how an ion exchange resin works in seawater. The resin will be shot and worthless in seconds. Chemi-Pure is an ion excahnge resin and activated carbon and there are by far better activated carbon to use than the one in this product which is bitum based. They also use different grades of carbon which you never do in water filtration as it is self-defeating.
You are just propagating The same old info that has been circulating for years!
That is you not me
alot of other companies have tried to copy it
Who ? And make sure first you know what is in the other products first. An idiot can copy that Chem-Pure stuff, it is not some kind of super secret.
The activated carbons used in Chemi-Pure are the finest most powerful, and longest lasting that money can buy
This is called marketing hype and a line of BS you buy into. Fell free to send some to Norit or Calgon for an assay and see what they tell you
And many people have switched for Chemi-Pure to other products with better results. Most serious reefer consider Boyd's stuff "snake- oil".What is a deionization resin ?
http://www.culliganmiami.com/pf5.html
Better yet ask the chem pure people how a DI resin works in seawater and what ions it is removing. Then ask them for a facts data sheet showing as such from lab. Run some adsorption test with Chemi-Pure vs other products to see what a colored dye remove rate is.
Chemi-Pure usually lasts for up to 6 months before it needs to be replaced.
This is also nonsense it will be 100 % biological way before that time and me useless way before that time. Fell free to call any activated carbon chemical engineering and ask then that or these other questions.
Their ad
The activated carbons filter particulates and waste while the ion exchange resins help remove nitrogen (ammonia and nitrate) build up which is harmful to your fish.
Yes, in freshwater but NOT seawater. Will it remove * some in seawater, yes but so will activated carbon. Try to save some fish with this stuff in seawater with high ammonia, it won't happen but will work in FW . Do you know how you regenerate a DI resin that removes ammonium ? You use table salt and seawater is 85 % table salt. So, how is that going to work by magic ?
If you want to believe in marketing hype have at it but I will do all I can to keep others from it, that is my job here
hi boomer, I recently switched to chemi pure (i got it online), as there isn't any good carbon readily available here in Dubai.
all I can get my hands on is, chinese carbon $2 for 250gms, sera carbon $10 for 250gms, hobby carbon $10 for 250gms.
Chinese is a load of crap as it have so much ash that I have to wash it in 10g buckets at least 3-4 times before its a little better.
Sera and hobby need to be washed just once.
but using $20 for carbon in a month seems like a bit too much.
So I switched to chemipure last month.
The only other alternative is bio-zorb.
What should I use, if any at all?
bulk reef supply is out of the question as they don't ship international, and international shipping from tbaquatics is about $85 for 4pounds (this is just shipping).
If I stick with just sera, what is the quantity I should use for my 75g, I used about 500gms each time.
thanks man
all I can get my hands on is, chinese carbon $2 for 250gms, sera carbon $10 for 250gms, hobby carbon $10 for 250gms.
Chinese is a load of crap as it have so much ash that I have to wash it in 10g buckets at least 3-4 times before its a little better.
Sera and hobby need to be washed just once.
but using $20 for carbon in a month seems like a bit too much.
So I switched to chemipure last month.
The only other alternative is bio-zorb.
What should I use, if any at all?
bulk reef supply is out of the question as they don't ship international, and international shipping from tbaquatics is about $85 for 4pounds (this is just shipping).
If I stick with just sera, what is the quantity I should use for my 75g, I used about 500gms each time.
thanks man
Howe much GAC are you using for you tank. All you need is 1/2 cup / 50 net gals of water.
ash
That is not ash you are washing out but just fines. Even some USA GAC is like that and it does not mean it is crap GAC but may be even better, as it is usually Lignite. Do you have a link to this Chinese carbon or a data sheet. China makes some really good GAC. The SeaChem Matix is made in China.
ash
That is not ash you are washing out but just fines. Even some USA GAC is like that and it does not mean it is crap GAC but may be even better, as it is usually Lignite. Do you have a link to this Chinese carbon or a data sheet. China makes some really good GAC. The SeaChem Matix is made in China.
how much is 1/2 cup?
I use 500grams for my 75g
the chinese ones that I'm taking about are RESUN and another brand I don't remember
http://dorrypets.co.za/index.php?pa...facturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=33
thats the only link I could find
if I don't wash it away I'm sure it will seep into my tank
is there really a way of telling if the carbon is good or not?
I use 500grams for my 75g
the chinese ones that I'm taking about are RESUN and another brand I don't remember
http://dorrypets.co.za/index.php?pa...facturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=33
thats the only link I could find
if I don't wash it away I'm sure it will seep into my tank
is there really a way of telling if the carbon is good or not?
That is crap GAC in that link and is really only suppose to be used for air filtration.
is there really a way of telling if the carbon is good or not?
Not unless you have played with lots of kinds over many years. Other than that a carbon data sheet form the manufacture that has all kinds of numbers on it
1/ 2 cup = ~ 120 ml or = ~ 8 tablespoons/ 50 gal of water, not the size of the tank
The 500 grams ( 1 lb) :eek2: is ~ >5 cups depending on the type of carbon for 75 gal and should be using ~1 - 0.75 cups for 75 gal. Or you are using 85 tablespoons vs 12 tablespoons. So yo are using >5 x to much. No wonder why it is costing you so much. Using 1 gram / gal is also common and that is 75 grams , again you are > 5 x to much. Only nuts like me used that much in the olden days :lol:
if I don't wash it away I'm sure it will seep into my tank
Put it in a mesh bag
is there really a way of telling if the carbon is good or not?
Not unless you have played with lots of kinds over many years. Other than that a carbon data sheet form the manufacture that has all kinds of numbers on it
1/ 2 cup = ~ 120 ml or = ~ 8 tablespoons/ 50 gal of water, not the size of the tank
The 500 grams ( 1 lb) :eek2: is ~ >5 cups depending on the type of carbon for 75 gal and should be using ~1 - 0.75 cups for 75 gal. Or you are using 85 tablespoons vs 12 tablespoons. So yo are using >5 x to much. No wonder why it is costing you so much. Using 1 gram / gal is also common and that is 75 grams , again you are > 5 x to much. Only nuts like me used that much in the olden days :lol:
if I don't wash it away I'm sure it will seep into my tank
Put it in a mesh bag
told you it was crap
haha
this is the best one we have here
http://www.sera-usa.com/product.php?productid=16357&cat=521&page=1
this one box is 250g , and I use two boxes in one change
if I remember right, the box says 250g for 50gals of water
by the way, I thought 500g = 500ml, so that way 500g =~2 cups
boomer please have a look at this new link, i.e, the sera carbon and let me know if it is worth it, or should I try to order online?
haha
this is the best one we have here
http://www.sera-usa.com/product.php?productid=16357&cat=521&page=1
this one box is 250g , and I use two boxes in one change
if I remember right, the box says 250g for 50gals of water
by the way, I thought 500g = 500ml, so that way 500g =~2 cups
boomer please have a look at this new link, i.e, the sera carbon and let me know if it is worth it, or should I try to order online?
hey boomer, thanks for that.
I can only order chemi pure once in like 3 months, when we decide to do a group buy from premium aquatics.
my other option is this
http://www.aquatics-online.co.uk/catalogue/hobby-filter-media.asp
the second one, hobby carbon aktiv
what do you think of this?
if even this is crap, how many weeks should I use chemi pure for?
it says u can use it for upto 6 months (which i doubt)
I can only order chemi pure once in like 3 months, when we decide to do a group buy from premium aquatics.
my other option is this
http://www.aquatics-online.co.uk/catalogue/hobby-filter-media.asp
the second one, hobby carbon aktiv
what do you think of this?
if even this is crap, how many weeks should I use chemi pure for?
it says u can use it for upto 6 months (which i doubt)
From Aquatics On-Line get this stuff which is by far better than any carbon on that website and is acid washed and pH neutral, plus much better than Chemi-Pure
2513021 Eheim Aktiv Activated Carbon 250ml
http://www.aquatics-online.co.uk/catalogue/eheim-aquaball-internal-power-filters.asp#product93
or at least this carbon
http://www.aquatics-online.co.uk/catalogue/rena-xp-
external-filter-spares.asp#product2227
If you do a group buy from PA get
ESV Granular Activated Carbon
Carbon should be removed 1 / wk and rinsed under fresh water and tumbled as you rinse it in a mesh bag. Change 1 / month.
2513021 Eheim Aktiv Activated Carbon 250ml
http://www.aquatics-online.co.uk/catalogue/eheim-aquaball-internal-power-filters.asp#product93
or at least this carbon
http://www.aquatics-online.co.uk/catalogue/rena-xp-
external-filter-spares.asp#product2227
If you do a group buy from PA get
ESV Granular Activated Carbon
Carbon should be removed 1 / wk and rinsed under fresh water and tumbled as you rinse it in a mesh bag. Change 1 / month.
wayne in norway
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Why don't you buy from germany to the US if they're not keen to ship to dubai.. PM me and I'll link you to a reputable dealer who will ship whatever to you
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