the funny thing about these no name leds are that they are often repackaged and sold by middlemen here in the states. I'm not going to say names, but you know who you are. And yes I would know because I have 2 american and 1 chinese led the same exact builds and the same exact warranty. The warranty american companies are selling you are the warranties from the manufacturer.
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andrewbram
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Well I look forward to it even if you lose a few that want to be stuborn. I think overall it will be good I looked up ther site and now they are selling some red ones too....I think that might help with spectrum but who am I to say I havent bought new equip in 5 years....!
bif24701
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BigAirHarper
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Noahlito which fixture exactly did you get? Also I followed your link instructions and couldnt see your pics.
shaginwagon13
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Why are you so combative when people mention that for the most part Chinese made products are not the same quality? You are posting on a forum to ask what people think and then get angry when they try to suggest possible problems that might cost you more money down the road.
To comment on your post, its a fact that the quality of manufactured goods coming from China are not the same quality as those made in the US, Canada or Europe. I'm sorry if you disagree but for 99% of the products thats the case. Companies don't outsource to China because they want to increase quality. They outsource to China because China has poor labor laws, virtually no minimum wage, poor working conditions and the quality, craftsmanship and longevity is low which allows them to sell manufactured goods at a fraction of the cost from the same product being made domestically. You pay for what you get and your Wal Mart example is a prime case. If you want good quality stuff, you don't go shop at Wal Mart precisely because most of their products are made poorly in China.
Nobody in this thread said that because your lights are made in China they would burst into flames, just that in the long run, the performance might deteriorate because there is a chance that some of the parts might not be the same quality. Don't post a question asking what people think and then get upset at what they say, thats childish. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, thats what makes this forum so valuable.
Regardless, you got the lights and I hope they work out for you. I have no idea if these lights are good or bad, but keep us updated with pics so we can follow the progress of your tank because I am sure everyone is interested to see your results.
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SimonSKL
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Two years ago I decided to jump into the LED system and ordered a Chinese made LED system (Maxspect G2-230W). The unit has provided me with two years of trouble free lighting to my 92g tank and I have seen good growth of both my sps and lps corals. Maxspect continues to improve and brings out new systems to compete with the best in the industry. See the Reef Builder link below
http://************.com/2012/01/08/led-showdown-finals/
In this global economy, country of origin is not as important as the design and quality of the product. Those with poor design and quality will not last long in any market. It is more important to do your research and share your experience so others can learn from your success or failure. I think Stever's post in this forum is heading in that direction. Functionality is the most important factor followed by aesthetic. If a product functions well and reasonably priced, I, like many others who must watch our dollars closely, would welcome such a product.
http://************.com/2012/01/08/led-showdown-finals/
In this global economy, country of origin is not as important as the design and quality of the product. Those with poor design and quality will not last long in any market. It is more important to do your research and share your experience so others can learn from your success or failure. I think Stever's post in this forum is heading in that direction. Functionality is the most important factor followed by aesthetic. If a product functions well and reasonably priced, I, like many others who must watch our dollars closely, would welcome such a product.
BonsaiNut
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This is the most bizarre thread in the world. Talk about comparing apples to oranges! People realize that China is the most populous country in the world, right? There are quite a few different LED emitter manufacturers, to say nothing of the number of companies that manufacturer LED light fixtures. To say "I bought one of these lights" without being specific about what manufacturer and what model is like saying "I bought an apple pie and it was tasty! - I recommend everyone go buy apple pies!" LOL! The devil is in the details! Who CARES about country of origin - you should be caring about features and performance and price REGARDLESS of country of origin!
karsseboom
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You people are confused on what me and other people are saying. THIS IS NOT ABOUT BUYING CHINA MADE.PRODUCTS CUASE THERE INFERIOR. This is about not buying these lights because they don't grow coral....period. I have seen so many cases where these just brown out your sps tanks. Who cares where they come from if they grow sps but the facet of the matter is they Don't.
SimonSKL
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Before you discount all of us who have first hand experience with "Chinese Made" LED lights that grow sps. Read the entire thread below and come back with your comment.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1929512
I would have to disagree as I have the 120w (1w LEDs) from Reefkoi and have been running them on one side of my tank for over 1.5 years now. I have a few SPS and (yes) a blue gigantea that have been under these lights. The only brown SPS I have are the ones that get stung by the anemone. Here are a few photos of what's under the lights:
On the upper left here, you can see part of the blue gigantea. Not bleached nor brown at all. This Hawkins started off as a small 1/2" frag.
karsseboom
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I was seriously at my buddies house on Friday and his tank is the most amazing full blown sps tank I have ever seen in person. He had numerous frag tanks plumbed together from the display tank and on one of his frag tanks he has a Chinese led light he purchased for 300 bucks on one frag of the tank and an ATI power module on the other half and the side with the Chinese led was completely browned out. There is no difference from water chemistry from the tanks there all plumbed together the olny difference is the light.
karsseboom
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Like I said its not about build quailty its about spectrum these 1 watt china leds are putting out.
Not every company uses the same spectrum LED. Many use CREE, and with some manufacturers you can select the LEDs that are put into your fixture (such as EShine.)
Your blanket statements about 'Chinese LEDs' are ignorant. The 'Domestic' LEDs are most probably manufactured in China as well, just with different labeling.
Don't hate just because some have chosen to do research and take the chance with a cheaper alternative. They are working well for many people in the hobby, and as they continue to do so name brand distrubuters will have to lower their prices or face losing significant business.
karsseboom
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If there usibg 3 Watt Cree leds then I would give them a chance but the cheesy ones with the 1 Watt leds are not getting goods results with sps.
Essencereef
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Dude, these arguments are pointless. Those "Chinese" LED lights are kicking butt no matter how you look at them. I have one above my frag tank right now, and honestly, for $160 I couldn't have done better! And about browning out coral, it's well known fact that coral taken from high intensity into low will brown out. So will a coral that grows in high nutrient system under lower light intensity. Just the way things work very often 
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