Clam Nutrition and Placement Question

[DTagrin]

It is obvious that my posts are being selectively removed by the moderator. You will note the one sided actions show that the moderator will not even let me posts the link to the page on my website that has the information that you are requesting. Therefore, I suggest that you go to my website which you will have to look up because the moderator will remove it if I put it into this thread, and send me an email. You can communicate with me without interference.
dtagrin@dtplankton

 

[DTagrin]

I will try to respond to the original comment and your later question.
Oyster eggs are food for corals.
Corals for which this food is particularly useful are those with poor prey capture responses and those with very small polyps. Included are Porites, Montipora, Goniopora, gorgonians, soft corals, and the oyster eggs even show some success with the maintenance of previously difficult or impossible to maintain azooxanthellate soft corals and seafans.

Oyster eggs are not food for clams. Clams consume a broad range of particles but primarily utilize phytoplankton.
Several studies have shown that bivalves will not effectively utilize preserved phytoplankton, or detritus. Studies have demonstrated that filterââ"šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“feeding mollusks are able to sort particles (Shumway et al., 1985). In 1998, Ward et al. have shown that both Crassostrea gigas and Mytilus trossulus are able to sort and ingest live microalgal cells, and selectively reject Spartina alterniflora, dried and crushed particles (3-20 Microns), as pseudofeces. Rejection of low quality particles in favor of higher quality microalgal cells has been previously demonstrated (Newell et al., 1989; Newell and Shumway, 1993).

Dennis Tagrin
DTââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢s Plankton Farm

 

[mbbuna]

What did i miss?????

 

[FSOL]

OK, since I"m getting the oyster eggs tomorrow, I'll do some feeding and see how the clams respond to it, and maybe I'll clear up some of the confusion here myself.
Even if the clams don't eat it I have enough corals in the tank that'll devour the eggs

 

[DTagrin]

How are you going to determine if the clams are passing it as pesudofeces or utilizing it as a food? I do not know why you think I would lie about my product not being for something. Bivalves do not eat bivalve eggs.
Dennis Tagrin
DT's Plankton Farm

 

[XeniaMania]

It's ok...I believe you, I know clams don't like eating bigger particles..

 

[FSOL]

I'm not saying I don't believe you. I'm just saying just to break the two way tie between you guys, I"ll just be the third person and watch what happens and post about it.
So far I feel that both of my clams are doing fine w/ just the strong lights. I just wanted some extra stuff to feed them, and if oyster eggs are too large for them, there's plenty of other stuff I put in the tank (phytoplankton, cyclopeeze, etc...) that they could possibly choose to eat or discard. That's upto them

 

[Paul B]

In 20 years of keeping them I have never directly fed any clam.
They seem to grow a couple of inches a year with no feeding.
Paul
I have seen many of them in the South Pacific and they all seem to be attached to a rock, even the ones that look like they are in the sand are connected to rocks.
Paul

 

[Anemone]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7171075#post7171075 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DTagrin
It is obvious that my posts are being selectively removed by the moderator. You will note the one sided actions show that the moderator will not even let me posts the link to the page on my website that has the information that you are requesting. Therefore, I suggest that you go to my website which you will have to look up because the moderator will remove it if I put it into this thread, and send me an email. You can communicate with me without interference.
dtagrin@dtplankton

Please keep in mind that even RC Sponsors do not have the privilege of making commercial posts. Any link to a commercial website made by the business in question, is by definition a commercial post. You already knew this, but posted a link anyway.

Additionally, there have been some personal accusations and attacks that have been removed. These were also against RC's User Agreement.

The moderator was absolutely correct. You are/were not the victim here, in any way.

Kevin
Anemone
RC Staff

 

[DTagrin]

Tell me that this is not pages of spam from my competitor and his
employee, who admitted his affiliation with Reef Nutrition. Anthony asked for me to get involved in this thread and I did so by sending emails to Anthony. Reed took over the thread with a constant barrage of self promotion.
Every post that Reed made had at least two links to his site in the signature.
I find that the rules are only enforced when a moderator feels like it. I have shown only 1 example of what I am referring to.
I would like to see enforcement for all.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s
=&threadid=638436&perpage
=25&highlight=Randy%20Reed&pagenumber=1

 

[Anemone]

Dennis,

Let's see, that thread is 9 months old, and was posted in an "expert forum" that was moderated by that expert. The Staff at RC left thread moderation within the expert forums up to those experts.

Every post that Reed made had at least two links to his site in the signature.

Sponsors are permitted to have links to their business in their signatures.


Finally, EXACTLY what has any of the above got to do with your current behavior in this thread, in this general discussion forum?

I find that the rules are only enforced when a moderator feels like it. I have shown only 1 example of what I am referring to. I would like to see enforcement for all.

When you find another example (one a bit more timely, if you please), use the report this post to moderator button at the bottom of the post. That will direct a moderator to the specific thread in your complaint. Using perceived past injustices by others to defend present poor behavior by oneself is more than bit on the "weak" side.

Kevin

 

[DTagrin]

My complaint is that GreshamH is an employee of Reef Nutrition. Statements that he makes to either boost Reef Nutrition products or to contradict what I am saying about my product are spam.
He lists his occupation as marine farmer and he should be listed as a sponsor and an employee of Reef Nutrition.

 

[TA]

I don't know [profanity], but I've posted in this forum once and recieved only one response while this [profanity] thread keeps getting alot of attention (which kinda [profanity] me off a bit).

After reading through this thread, I'm developing an impression here....don't think I'll ever visit either of your sites or purchase any of your products.

Best thing that can happen here for either of you is for a moderator to simply delete this thread.

btw....thanks for all the attention.

End of line.

This is a family friendly site. If you can't make your point without resorting to profanity, refrain from posting. BrianD

 

[Anemone]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7177068#post7177068 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DTagrin
My complaint is that GreshamH is an employee of Reef Nutrition. Statements that he makes to either boost Reef Nutrition products or to contradict what I am saying about my product are spam.
He lists his occupation as marine farmer and he should be listed as a sponsor and an employee of Reef Nutrition.

Dennis,

I understand your point. However, on this thread, that didn't happen. Here is Gresham's first post on this thread:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7166742#post7166742 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GreshamH
Really, so they may in fact be picking up 50 micron oyster eggs, rotifer eggs, copepod eggs, etc? I always have been told they tend to close up with particles in the 50 and up micron range. Learn something everyday, thanks

He asked a question of another poster about larger items really being food for clams. No attack on you at all, but you responded with insults and accusations. There wasn't a problem here until you created it.

You chose to hash this out in public. We can continue to derail this thread or take this private. The choice is yours.

Kevin

 

[mbbuna]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7177249#post7177249 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by TA
I don't know <font size="1" color="#0000FF">profanity removed</font>, but I've posted in this forum once and recieved only one response while this <font size="1" color="#0000FF">profanity removed</font> thread keeps getting alot of attention (which kinda <font size="1" color="#0000FF">profanity removed</font> me off a bit).

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=823792


the response by kfisc was just about all that could be said on the matter. there's quite a few people that hang out in this forum who know there stuff and when some one pretty much nails an answer on the head there wont be too many more responses to the question

question to the modarators. is there any way to replace the deleted posts and just black out or remove the parts that were deemed to be against the UA?(like was done to TA's profanity) this forum doesnt usually get much attention from industry professionals and i think there may be some great information.

 

[Anemone]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7178435#post7178435 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mbbuna
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=823792
question to the modarators. is there any way to replace the deleted posts and just black out or remove the parts that were deemed to be against the UA?(like was done to TA's profanity) this forum doesnt usually get much attention from industry professionals and i think there may be some great information.

We generally try to do that. Unfortunately, in this instance there was too much that needed to be edited.

Kevin

 

[DTagrin]

If you have a question about my products, please contact me by email from the contact page on my website. I will be happy to answer any questions that you have.
Note: I do not check for messages on RC, please use my website.
Dennis Tagrin
DTââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢s Plankton Farm
dtagrin@dtplankton.com