Cleaner shrimp eat ICH?

[Deinonych]

LOL, wow, that guys doesn't just see a glass as half empty - he sees it as totally empty...

I have never read such a cynical article before...

Have there been any studies that had two fish with ich - one treated with ginger and one without to see the difference?

Actually, Richard Ross is a pretty affable guy. His lectures at MACNA are always a hoot.

There are no studies regarding ginger to my knowledge.

 

[ThRoewer]

Actually, Richard Ross is a pretty affable guy. His lectures at MACNA are always a hoot.
...

+1

I met him at a BAR meeting and sometime run into him at some of the local stores around here.

 

[cyricdark]

23 days still no visible signs of ich

 

[ThRoewer]

So what?
I got the same results with doing nothing.
No cleaner shrimp touching the fish, no garlic, no ginger, no reef safe snake oil.
The fish got better all by themselves.

 

[SNAKEMANVET]

My fish have ick, but I haven't seen any spots on them in six months.My sailfin and hippo had it when I placed them in the tank.I have done nothing to eradicate the parasite.

 

[Salty150]

Are there any Tangs that are less likely to "get" ich than others?

I think I heard that blue and powder blue tangs were the worst?

Purple?

 

[ThRoewer]

Are there any Tangs that are less likely to "get" ich than others?

I think I heard that blue and powder blue tangs were the worst?

Purple?

Actually tanks are as likely or unlikely to have ich as any other fish. The reason why tangs seem to be more prone to ich infections is that they are usually kept in too small tanks and therefore stressed out to the max which drains their immune system and makes them more susceptible to ich infections.

You have the same effect with Catalina Gobies that are kept at tropical temperatures.

 

[Deinonych]

Tangs do have a thinner slime coat than other species, so that may contribute to their being more susceptible to Cryptocaryon. But, I agree that in most cases it's poor husbandry and cramped quarters that promotes disease with these fish.

 

[Salty150]

Tangs do have a thinner slime coat than other species, so that may contribute to their being more susceptible to Cryptocaryon. But, I agree that in most cases it's poor husbandry and cramped quarters that promotes disease with these fish.

Well, I agree, most tangs should not even be in most of our tanks.

I think even a 6 foot long tank is still too small for a tang.

 

[krullshards]

Hah. That's how I felt when I first saw ich and read about how to deal with it.

 

[snorvich]

So basically what i'm reading is that if you don't have a QT tank you don't need to have fish.

Correct.

 

[Fishmas]

I used to travel with Chris Newbert to do underwater photography. When we went to PNG, we had a marine biologist who had done research on cleaning behavior; turns out cleaning, in addition to removing ectoparasites is a stress reducer for the client fish as measured by levels of cortisol. A link to one of several studies can be found here. I will look for the link to the stomach assay study; I think it was Stephen Spotte.

I would agree. I have both a cleaner wrasse and cleaner shrimp and both my tangs will actually stop swimming and park in front of them. They make the cleaners work hard. Both tangs seem less stressed and focus their attention on these two cleaners. They even bump the other out of position and take their spot.

Less stress + good diet = healthier fish

That should help resist the ich

 

[ThRoewer]

I added a pair of cleaner shrimp to my tank for just that reason - stress reduction.
But that lazy scum pretty much ignores the fish that come to them. At best they do a quick and dirty job.

 

[Deinonych]

But that lazy scum pretty much ignores the fish that come to them. At best they do a quick and dirty job.

Same. Mine hangs out in the corner with my clownfish pair and never does any cleaning. He's really good at stealing food from my corals, though.

 

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I applaud the experts and regulars for putting up with this junk thread. What a great read.


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[FortyFour]

One day we'll learn that the cure for ich is something like McDonald french fries, and ReefCentral will implode.

 

[ThRoewer]

One day we'll learn that the cure for ich is something like McDonald french fries, and ReefCentral will implode.

Considering all the bad stuff that's in McDonald's food it's totally plausible that it may kill ich. Though it may also kill everything else in the tank, which makes it no better than all the other things that can kill ich.

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[TangorRay]

[/QUOTE] Ich will now always be in your system unless you let your DT, LR, coral all go fish less for 10+ weeks to be safe and treat all your fish with copper or TTM. You may not see it but it will be present.

If that is true, wouldn't it be better to remove all of your filters, and restart a cycle in your tank? Assuming you had no other fish or removed them to QT. Why wait 10 weeks when a cycle usually only lasts 4? For that matter, can Ich survive an ammonia spike, like one caused by a piece of shrimp in a nylon?