lancepender
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very true!! They have there uses, but not as a CL pump.
Closed Loop or Vortechs?
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very true!! They have there uses, but not as a CL pump.
tangtang clown
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I am think about a the snapper gold. Does any one see a problem if I set my CL up using 2x1.5" bulkheads w/ screens for the intake side, and 3x3/4" bulkheads w/ loc-line 3/4"to1/2" reducing wyes on the return side? Do I need more returns?
lancepender
Clams and More Clams
Why are you going down to 3/4 and 1/2"?? Is it the lock line you are after?? If so, OM makes similar to lock line.. There called Omni Flex nozzles.
In the pics that I have posted you can see them..
Omni Flex Nozzles
In the pics that I have posted you can see them..
Omni Flex Nozzles
tangtang clown
New member
CL
CL
I was told to use 1.5" plumbing up to .75" bulkheads to increase flow/pressure. I have been looking at the OMs and SWCDs. Should I put on on my CL to help wave/current action?
Thanks for all your help lance :beer: , can't seem to find much on CL
, but I don't mind trial and error.
CL
I was told to use 1.5" plumbing up to .75" bulkheads to increase flow/pressure. I have been looking at the OMs and SWCDs. Should I put on on my CL to help wave/current action?
Thanks for all your help lance :beer: , can't seem to find much on CL
, but I don't mind trial and error.
lancepender
Clams and More Clams
Re: CL
Re: CL
First off, your welcome..
Second, Lets not do the trial and error method.. It can be very expensive.. draining and re-doing plumbing. Besides stress to you and the livestock..... ha
You will have enough flow.. If you want more get a bigger pump the first time and just valve it down. You'll find out real fast that you'll have enough flow. Just make sure you go pump, union, ball valve. on both ends of the pump, and depending on your pump you choose. Keep the same size inlet to the pump. If its 11/2", do two 11/2" and T them together right at the ball valve. If its 2", do the same.
Re: CL
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I was told to use 1.5" plumbing up to .75" bulkheads to increase flow/pressure. I have been looking at the OMs and SWCDs. Should I put on on my CL to help wave/current action?
Thanks for all your help lance :beer: , can't seem to find much on CL
First off, your welcome..
Second, Lets not do the trial and error method.. It can be very expensive.. draining and re-doing plumbing. Besides stress to you and the livestock..... ha
You will have enough flow.. If you want more get a bigger pump the first time and just valve it down. You'll find out real fast that you'll have enough flow. Just make sure you go pump, union, ball valve. on both ends of the pump, and depending on your pump you choose. Keep the same size inlet to the pump. If its 11/2", do two 11/2" and T them together right at the ball valve. If its 2", do the same.
lancepender
Clams and More Clams
OM's are great!!! I wouldn't use the SWCD's. For one there inlets and outlets are to small, besides these pumps would probably blow them up :eek1: .. It would be cool to see, out side the house... haha:eek2:
tangtang clown
New member
I figured the pressure would be too much HAHA.
I plan on isolating the pump and each bilkhead so I can swap out pumps if necessary, my only concern was the number and size of my returns.
I plan on isolating the pump and each bilkhead so I can swap out pumps if necessary, my only concern was the number and size of my returns.
lancepender
Clams and More Clams
It would kill your head pressure and flow rate. It would probably cut the flow in half.
Taking your 11/2 - 2" down to 1, 3/4, 1/2" would be very bad. You would get nothing coming out of your exits with these pumps. It would restrict them way to much..
Four to six returns is good. Just depends on what size pump you are getting.
Taking your 11/2 - 2" down to 1, 3/4, 1/2" would be very bad. You would get nothing coming out of your exits with these pumps. It would restrict them way to much..
Four to six returns is good. Just depends on what size pump you are getting.
tangtang clown
New member
I am thinking of an Iwaki 55RLT or a Snapper.
What size bulkheads should I drill for return from CL?
What size bulkheads should I drill for return from CL?
lancepender
Clams and More Clams
The Snapper uses 2" in and 11/2" out. I just installed a 110 gal about a month ago. I used the snapper for the return pump. This tank was a glass tank. So I ran 11/2" up from the pump up over the back and T'ed it and ran two 45's on for nozzles. The tank was 48" x 18" x 30" tall. Good flow everywhere. The customer was a buddy from work. So, I could talk to him just about everyday on the tank. He actually valve it down.
You can pm him if you want.. cgavt01 I'll tell him to get on this thread today for you.
lancepender
Clams and More Clams
I hope you and everyone else is learning and getting wheels turning in your heads on and about CL's.. There great for flow, cleaning up the look of a tank, and very little maintance.
If you have any questions.. Don't hesitate.
tangtang clown
New member
That's why I want to get one setup, less clutter in the tank, and more flow. I plan on installing the return bulkheads toward the bottom of the back and cover them with rock work.
I am asking these questions for my setup, as well as for a friend. We are both upgrading from 75s and we think CLs would be a great idea. If anyone has any details, holler holler.
tangtang clown
New member
I just bought a snapper this AM. I plan on using it for my CL. I am also looking at a couple Iwaki MD40RLXT pumps to use as my return pump. Hopefully this will be a good team.
biecacka
Active member
quick question i am looking at 240 cube to replace my 220 tall. if i do so i will have the bottom of the cube drilled for a CL. softy only tank. i currently have a aquaeuro 55 as my return pump. 1200 gph or so at no head, could i use it as a CL pump with a dart or something as my return pum? enought flow??
thanks
corey
thanks
corey
lancepender
Clams and More Clams
Nice pump choice for a CL!!
Just wondering, what's the quiet low flow external for? Tank return??
I would look at your overflows (max water you can run thru your overflow) and refer to this to make a decision:
Iwaki, Blueline, Pan World.. There all about same. More watts and more heat.
20 - 480 gph at 45w
30 - 590 gph at 90w
30X - 1100 gph at 90w
40 - 790 gph at 120w
40X - 1270 gph at 130w
55 - 1100 gph at 180w
70 - 1750 gph at 290w
100 - 1900 gph at 390w
and Reeflo Pumps
Snapper Gold, 2600 gph at 97w
Dart Gold, 3800 gph at 132w
Supper Dart Gold, 4300 gph at 165w
Goby Gold, 3400 gph at 198
Bigger pumps.. But still better then the Mag drives..
Barracuda Gold, 4680 gph at 237w
Hammerhead Gold, 5555 gph at 272w
As you already know about reeflo pumps. I'm wondering why you don't just stick with the same type for your other pump (At least make sure the inlet and outlet are the same size.)? Could always use it as a spare. Say your main pump goes down. You can take your CL pump and put it on the main line till you get the CL pump back on line. Just an idea...
I flew up for a weekend to install a 180 in a single story house with a basement few months ago (some of the pics in this thread are from that that build). The sump and all the equipment is down stairs. I put a new Reeflo Blackfin 6000 on the return and another one for the CL. Worked very well. great flow, no issues what so ever.
lancepender
Clams and More Clams
Corey,
Well, I'm a SPS and Reeflo guy.
I like darts as return pumps. great choice. good flow, quiet. Just a all around, good pump.
Hole locations? How many? What size holes?
Overflow location? Size?
Personally, I would keep the Dart and do a big pump for a CL and a OM 4-way (Expensive but well worth it, but can always add later). You can always valve down these pumps to almost no flow (Even the big pumps). But you also have the option once in a while to blast the tank.
Hope this helps, Lance
lancepender
Clams and More Clams
You say a couple???
260+ WATTS:eek1: For Approx. 2500 max gphI would get another
Snapper Gold, 2600 gph at 97w
Dart Gold, 3800 gph at 132w
Supper Dart Gold, 4300 gph at 165w
for your return.
Inlet and outlet are all the same size. Could use it as a back up pump.
biecacka
Active member
so i am thinking of selling my 220 tall and getting a 240 cube and running my first CL. it will be a softy only tank so im trying to figure out much flow i will need on it. i currently use an aquaeuro 55 as a return pump and would switch it out to the CL pump. its about 1200 gph. i would most likely use a dart as a return pump. if i go CL i want to do it right so i wont need to add powerheads in the tank later
corey
corey
