Clownfish ID

[xxpipedreamxx]

I need a couple of clownfish ID's. Thank you in advance to whoever can give me a positive ID.

A. polymnus?? Note the misbar headstripe on the smaller of the two. They are each at about 2 inches in length.

 

[xxpipedreamxx]

 

[xxpipedreamxx]

A. bicinctus?? This clown is very beat up but is managing pretty well with his/her mean tankmates

 

[phender]

Yes, they are brown polymnus, probably T.R.
Several months ago I saw some being sold as white caps.

 

[xxpipedreamxx]

I see things mislabled all of the time or shipments that come in with absolutely no ID. It is hard to know what to buy and what not to when you really do not have a clue as to what you are looking at.

 

[xxpipedreamxx]

Any thoughts on the second clownfish in the second video? BTW how much do these guys generally sell for?

 

[Toddrtrex]

I agree with Phil on the first one --- and odd are it is TR, years ago I had a pair of tank raised ones, the male looked a lot like yours.

 

[xxpipedreamxx]

Pretty clown ya had there

I could not get any photos of the clown in the second video because the tang, angel and wrasse do not stop chasing him/her EVER! I am probably going to buy it tomorrow to get it out of that tank. I would love it if someone could give me an ID on him/her.

 

[WDLV]

It could very well be an A. fuscocaudatus based on pigmentation. But given collection I would guess A. clarkii. Pick it up if you like it. If it's rare it's a bonus.

Here's a still of your fish.

 

[xxpipedreamxx]

This shop gets in unmarked things from all over and I have found several oddball clowns there so it may be rare. I will try and get a hold of them again and see if I can narrow down where it was collected. They also seem to get a ton of hybrid clowns because I have a very hard time pinning down an ID on anything there.

 

[xxpipedreamxx]

It is my understanding that A. fuscocaudatus has a very small third stripe at the base of the tail with a white tail radiating black stripes though.

A. bicinctus normally has an all bright yellow tail and this fish has yellow edges to the tail but its overall coloration is extremely dark including the middle of the tail. I am not sure if you can see in the video, but it has very large eyes that appear too big for its head but in no way resembles a sebae to me.

I am lost. I hate buying clowns without an ID. I will pick it up in a heatbeat if I can get one.

 

[traveller7]

Juvenile clowns present quite an ID challenge, don't expect them to look like the classical pictures.

I would doubt a shop gets a bunch of hybrids, more likely a mix of juveniles and adults from all over.

Does not look like Bicinctus or Fusco to me.

 

[Ron Popeil]

that first head stripe suggests bicinctus to me....

 

[marc price]

here ya go http://www.proaquatix.com/speciesdetail.asp?GROUPID=200&ID=11

 

[WDLV]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10989215#post10989215 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by marc price
here ya go http://www.proaquatix.com/speciesdetail.asp?GROUPID=200&ID=11

Same as these.

 

[3fins]

I saw the clarkii one, and i have a baby that looks just like it. It has a black stripe at the back end of its tail.

 

[xxpipedreamxx]

I will try and get a clear photo of it but I am about to run to our reenlistment. The fish in question is pretty large, at 2 to 3 inches. It shouldn't still be in its juvi colors depending on species. It has a dark brown tail, with yellow along the outer edges of it. There is no black on the fish but rather a rich chocolate color.

Oh and just as a side note, they get in hybrids from breeders as well as the normal mix of juvenile and adult clowns from worldwide. I am very familiar with the shipments that do come in because that is my place of business.

Maybe it is just between the juvenile and adult stage. I will take progress pictures over time, and see if it happens to change color any. It has not though in two months of being housed with no other clowns whatsoever.

 

[LargeAngels]

Is he getting in WC only or TR also? Is he importing directly or getting from a wholesaler?

My initial gut reaction was TR for both of them. Polymnus on the first and bicinctus for the second. Here is an ORA bicinctus of mine. Very similar. But as Scott pointed out indentification in younger clarkii complex is very difficult.

 

[xxpipedreamxx]

That picture is nearly dead on. He recieves fish from ORA, wholesale, and local breeders ect. Seems to be something new with every shipment They get both WC and TR but hardly anyone ever knows which is which because the shipping bags normally only give a region where the fish have come from.

 

[LargeAngels]

Most likely then all the odd ball clowns are TR from ORA.