Considering Tunzes, looking for suggestions

[derek4real]

My local Marine Society's (DFWMAS, DALLASMAS) there are a lot of reefers I know that use your products and and swear by them. I have been very interested in getting a few of these. Give you a idea of what I am looking for and your suggestions on your products.

My tank is a 150 RR (72" X 18" X 30"), I have a DSB about (3-4").

I really would like a wave in my tank (w/o wavebox, if possible)
I am thinking about getting 4 6055s. 2 on a random setting and 2 on a wavemaker. Is it possible to waves on a tank this size with only 2 6055s. What kind of controllers would I need an how many? Would AquaSurf be better for control-ability?

I do have SPS and LPS and really want the wave for the SPS. I have seen some tanks getting waves with & without waveboxes.

My question is what would your suggestion be for what I am looking for?

 

[nrike]

get an ecomarine vortech pump(G2) its a little expensive but worth every single penny, i have one in my tank, my corals and fish never been so happy, it has different setting i have my on short pulse mode and it creates a 1-2 inch wave in my tank. theres some videos on youtube check them out.

 

[shawnz28]

You would need more flow than that to create a wave without a wavebox. Not sure if a pair of 6105s at the right frequency would do it. Steve(Jarhead) would likely be the guy to know and surely will chime in. Though if a wave is what you are looking for a wavebox would surely be the easiest.

 

[derek4real]

i have heard mixed experiences with the vortechs. A guy down here went from tunze to vortech to tunze to vortech and back to tunze for good, i think.

I was thinking 2 X 6100s tunzes for a wave, and 2 X 6055s tunzes for random flow and 2 X non controllable for constant flow.

 

[Jar*Head]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13554644#post13554644 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by nrike
get an ecomarine vortech pump(G2) its a little expensive but worth every single penny, i have one in my tank, my corals and fish never been so happy, it has different setting i have my on short pulse mode and it creates a 1-2 inch wave in my tank. theres some videos on youtube check them out.

Yup 2 Vortech would be cheaper compare to 4 tunze 6055 plus the controller. But his tank is 72" that is 6foot long . Like Shawn mentioned, 2 may not be enough.

As a matter of fact if you are interested in Vortech Gen2 i can hook you up with my friend who is taking down 4 vortech from his tank and replace it with 2 tunze 6205. He is selling for pretty good deal .

 

[Jar*Head]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13555542#post13555542 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by derek4real
i have heard mixed experiences with the vortechs. A guy down here went from tunze to vortech to tunze to vortech and back to tunze for good, i think.

I was thinking 2 X 6100s tunzes for a wave, and 2 X 6055s tunzes for random flow and 2 X non controllable for constant flow.

2 tunze 6100 on Tunze 6091 wave controller will generate some wave but that is not the same wave that the wavebox generating. Beside you will encounter all type of problem with the tunze mount. If you are using tunze magnet, that latch on tunze Magnet will not last long then the swivel arm will come off the pump then you will have zipties wrap around to keep the pump from flying off the swivel arm etc. How do i know it is going to happen? I have been there, done that, break a bunch of corals from running away tunze stream on wave controller. Enough with all the scary stories.

Here is my suggestion. Since your tank is only 18" wide, you can get away with the Tunze Nano wavebox 6206 for $378, 2 tunze 6105 for $366 and run both pumps on the aquasurf function on your aquarium controller.

 

[derek4real]

As a matter of fact if you are interested in Vortech Gen2 i can hook you up with my friend who is taking down 4 vortech from his tank and replace it with 2 tunze 6205. He is selling for pretty good deal . [/B]

PM me the details.

 

[Jar*Head]

His name is Mike (Nuuze). You can PM him yourself...

 

[rvitko]

The best set up for this tank would be 2 6105 and a 6212 wavebox. The 6105 can be angled upwards so the DSB won't be disturbed and you will need the higher flow rates for SPS.

 

[derek4real]

what about vortech for waves and 2 X 6105s for randomised flow.

what is the difference in waves between using vortech and tunze wavebox and tunze stream (without wavebox, for making waves).

Thanks in advance.

 

[rvitko]

On a large tank either Streams or Vortechs won't produce the same type of waves you see in the smaller displays at trade shows. The box magnifies the effect due to the displacement.

 

[derek4real]

so if i want a wave like i see in the wavebox, combo of streams or vortechs will not have the same effect?

So there is no subsitiute for a wavebox?

Would I be able to use my overflow box as a box for the tunze?
Just drill a hole on the side of the corner overflowbox. I just do not like the bulky look of the box on the side of my glass..

 

[rvitko]

It will take more pumps to do the same thing without the box. I couldn't say for sure but it will take likely at least 2 larger Streams or Vortechs to give the same wave as one wavebox. As I said previously the box magnifies the effect so less is needed in terms of a pump.

Using the overflow box would be risky, overflow boxes are designed to stop the tank from draining, drilling a large hole low in the box would defeat the safety.

 

[Jar*Head]

If you are drilling holes inside your overflow box to modify a wavebox you are looking at bigger problem . The pump will sucks all the water out of your overflow and put it right back into the tank. We are looking at water on the floor. Unless you are building a box inside your overflow box which will be seal and turn it into the wavebox. Make sure the top end of the box expose to air so you will have the air and water mixture. You are looking at more trouble doing that then adding a wavebox.

 

[derek4real]

i really did not like the bulky look of a wavebox. And wanted to find some alternate way relocating it some where some how. but a box built inside the overflow would be a good idea. hmmm. now you got me thinking.

 

[Jar*Head]

If that is the case, i hope you have an corner overflow box because it will not work on the center overflow box. The wavebox frequency need room to travel to be able to generate wave effect.

 

[derek4real]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13559443#post13559443 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jar*Head
If that is the case, i hope you have an corner overflow box because it will not work on the center overflow box. The wavebox frequency need room to travel to be able to generate wave effect.

Yeah, I got the dual corner overflow boxes and not the dual center offset overflows.

This may be easier to do this when I move, though.