Coral Beauty Angelfish PAIR :)

[Charley Diesing]

Well I don't have a pair... Just had some questions...

Do you see pairs on LA very often? I've never seen a pair myself, but kinda new to it.

Will else could I possibly get my hands on a pair?

Also what would you say a pair would go for?

Any one with Dwarf angelfish pairing, experience. Please chime in.

Thanks,

Charley

 

[pacislandaqua]

we have pairs from time to time. as well as multicolor, flame, potters...

 

[Charley Diesing]

we have pairs from time to time. as well as multicolor, flame, potters...

What do they usually run for?

 

[rpjaws74]

I didnt know coral beautys could pair up or sold as pairs! interesting

 

[cota4]

I heard a guy that works at a Lfs in my area has a 90g mixed reef with 8 Coral Beauties in it as its only fish! I would love to see it myself. As long as they are added at the same time you should be fine as far as pairing up goes ????? good luck.

 

[humaguy]

pia has a pair now for $75...

 

[Haffs09]

You can try to pair them up yourself. Buy a small one and a medium or large fish. Separate the QT tank with eggcrate that has a couple of openings only big enough for the small one to pass through. Over time, the small one will likely move in and out of the larger one's side. Once they start spending the majority of their time together, remove the eggcrate. Continue to watch for aggression and if necessary, reinstall the eggcrate. I used this method for a trio of multicolor angels and am in the process of using it for a pair of flame angels.

 

[Charley Diesing]

pia has a pair now for $75...

Yeah I am aware. PIA contacted me giving me photos asking if I want the pair before they release it. I had to turn them down, not ready for any new fish at the moment. Plus my QT is only a 10 gallon and I plan on setting up my 20 long when I get a pair.

 

[Charley Diesing]

You can try to pair them up yourself. Buy a small one and a medium or large fish. Separate the QT tank with eggcrate that has a couple of openings only big enough for the small one to pass through. Over time, the small one will likely move in and out of the larger one's side. Once they start spending the majority of their time together, remove the eggcrate. Continue to watch for aggression and if necessary, reinstall the eggcrate. I used this method for a trio of multicolor angels and am in the process of using it for a pair of flame angels.

That is awesome! I may try it in the summer. So do the Trio stick together? Or are they all over the place?

Do dwarf angels tend to stick together in pairs? like they would in the wild?

 

[Haffs09]

Right now, the trio is in a 75gal tank and they move all over the place. It will be interesting to see what happens when I introduce them to my 370gal in a couple of weeks, along with the flame angel pair and single potter's angel.

I don't believe they pair up in the wild, but rather form a harem with one male and 3 or 4 females.

Do you plan on trying this in a 40BR? If so, I think it's risky to do so. If the male decides it wants some space, the female may be in some serious trouble.

 

[humaguy]

cool, good luck...

 

[Charley Diesing]

Right now, the trio is in a 75gal tank and they move all over the place. It will be interesting to see what happens when I introduce them to my 370gal in a couple of weeks, along with the flame angel pair and single potter's angel.

I don't believe they pair up in the wild, but rather form a harem with one male and 3 or 4 females.

Do you plan on trying this in a 40BR? If so, I think it's risky to do so. If the male decides it wants some space, the female may be in some serious trouble.

Yeah I was debating just having them in the 40 BR and nothing else. Just kinda browsing my options. My LFS has Coral beauties all the time for $15 so I'll be tempted just to try pairing myself. Any clue on deciphering between male and female?

 

[Haffs09]

They start life as females. The dominant female will turn male and is the larger of the harem. Getting a small one and a larger one will give you a decent shot at forming a pair. Again, I'm not sure this will work in a 40BR. Personally, I wouldn't try it in a tank that size.

 

[tanksfishtank]

What do they usually run for?

They dont usually run because there fish, so they swim:lmao: Sorry just couldn't help myself!

 

[flameangel88]

imo $75 for a pair is not bad at all. The going price is $25/ea and if you order 2 that doesn't work and fight to the death (cb are normally pretty aggressive) and you end up buying another one that's $75 right there. If you buy a pair at least you have a male and a female. PIA and LA DD are great places to buy from.

 

[Sheol]

Neat idea, I may try it some day!
I know about getting two different sizes, but the egg-crate thing? Pretty cool.

Matthew

 

[velvetelvis]

Yeah I am aware. PIA contacted me giving me photos asking if I want the pair before they release it. I had to turn them down, not ready for any new fish at the moment. Plus my QT is only a 10 gallon and I plan on setting up my 20 long when I get a pair.

A 20 will probably be too small for a pair of coral beauties. They do get to about 4" long, and angelfish are very active. 75G is about the minimum I've seen recommended for a pair of Centropyge.

 

[mattsilvester]

fyi - i bought a pair. observed them in the dealers tank and they were "cute" together. a couple of months later in my 150 tank they swim as a pair, never more tham 12" apart, usually 6", but the female has developed a tatty tail and i've noticed the male giving her a hard time sometimes .......

all in, what i am saying is i'd urge caution. naturally they congragate in hareems, not pairs, so perhaps this behaviour is to be expected?

 

[Charley Diesing]

A 20 will probably be too small for a pair of coral beauties. They do get to about 4" long, and angelfish are very active. 75G is about the minimum I've seen recommended for a pair of Centropyge.

The 20 long would be for a QT. I don't think I'm going to do it. Sounds like more stress then pleasure.

 

[mattsilvester]

The 20 long would be for a QT. I don't think I'm going to do it. Sounds like more stress then pleasure.

I read a very interesting thread a few days ago. One of the posters pointed out a paradox in this hobby: as aquarists we expend a great deal of effort seeking to replicate nature; yet it appears we spend just as much time trying to get our reef animals to do unnatural things.

In that case, the poster was referring to the tendency for angelfish to eat corals. He makes the point that on a long enough time scale, all angels (he was referring to full size, not dwarf angles) will eat coral because it is natural behaviour for them to do so. That is a seperate debate, but the same principle holds true for "pairing" species that don't naturally co-habit as "pairs" - on the vast expanse of the reef angels are haremic; expecting them to be monogomous pairs in the confines of a home aquarium is not natural beahviour - hence why it is not always straight forward.

Of course like everything in this hobby, that seemingly generic line of thinking cannot be applied universally. Many people maintain "pairs" of centropyge angels; other species that normally associate in hareems such as clownfish can also thrive as pairs.

In summary, I have come to the same conclusion as you. When this ventures work out and you get a happy "pair" is great, and looks really nice - but when the fish don't follow the plan, its just more stress than pleasure.