Coral Tank from Canada (1350gal Display Tank) - split

Wow. I have seen pictures and video of this tank before and I just finished reading this disaster. I don't know that me or my relationship could survive a disaster of this magnitude. I really hope Peter, his wife and the love for the hobby recover well and soon from this.
 
Peter,

I'm so sorry for your loss. My thoughts are with you.

Its hard to even comprehend a failure like that. I hope you can find the peace of mind to take it in stride.

Your tank has been an inspiration and a gift to all that experienced it.

-Howard
 
I have read this thread almost since its inception. I can't believe that the tank is gone, and in a matter of minutes.

Good for you, Peter, to make the decision (at least right now) to start again. Looking forward to the new build thread!

Although I'm in Vancouver, I would be happy to offer assistance any way I can - even if it's just to donate a frag or two to the next build.

Good luck!
Kelly
 
The material looks to be at least 1.5", maybe 2"?

The front panel that failed is only 1" and it has 16' of water pushing against it. We didn't have any type of wave device that would add undue stress.

I'm not an acrylic bonding expert, but it appears that the seam was faulty as there was no physical incident with the are. As horrible as it sounds, it's too bad it took so long for the seam to fail. It's really the contents with most monitor and more importantly sentimental value. It really isn't about the cost of a fish and coral collection, it's the sum of resources needed to get to that point. Starting over comes at an immense cost that hurts no matter how deep your pockets are. Above and beyond that, it's really tough to go back through the collecting process. The build is always fun, but stocking the tank and QT is a tough ride.
 
I have read this thread almost since its inception. I can't believe that the tank is gone, and in a matter of minutes.

You hit the nail on the head. It isn't that the tank slipped away on us slowly, it was too late by the time we found out it had happened. While we have a lot of water on hand and some large quarantine tanks, it's virtually impossible to carry out in minutes with the water gone from the tank.

The whole experience felt like we had lost a loved one, and in many ways we did. There was no time to get accustomed to the idea or say goodbye in any way shape or form.

Words can't describe the 24' long carcass we are left with. It's deeply depressing to look at. I think a plan and some action will help shift the focus to the new effort.
 
I know there is nothing I, or anybody for that matter can say to you right now that will make this horrible situation feel any less so, but id just like to commend you on the way you have handled this, and the positive way in which you are looking at your future in the hobby. It probably seems that a serious amount of money was lost with this, but try to think of it as money well spent with regards to how much joy and education this tank brought to you.

Chin up mate, you and your family are still in good health.

Mark.
 
This is like a blindsided punch coming out of the blue. Things where going so well the the crack and it all disappears. You have learned so much from the tank so far. Stop regroup and use those learnings to make and even better tank.
 
We've been busy picking up the pieces so we apologize for not reaching out to anyone earlier about the event. For obvious reasons, we have to be careful how we approach this.

We would however like to thank some of the vendors who were very helpful throughout the process. Peter isn't one to ask for a handout or a freebie, but he does truly appreciate customer support and vendors who are willing to work toward a custom design for his needs.

Orphek was very helpful with the lighting and it has served us well over the past 4 years. We cannot say enough good things about Venotech Abyzz pumps. The only thing you can complain about is the price, but keep in mind Peter drives tailor made Bentley's. Sea U Marine, Aquatic Kingdom, Mail Order Pet Supplies and Reef Wholesale have all been great vendors and catered to our strange requests without question. We have been loyal to Instant Ocean Reef Crystals from the inception of the tank. Frequent large water changes aren't easy with a big tank, but we feel they have been an invaluable tool. With a few modifications, the RK2 protein skimmer has sever us very well. We are using Apex controllers on the quarantine tanks and they have been a pleasure to use. Both Peter and I are very computer literate, but it helps when operating systems are user-friendly nonetheless.

We are hoping to continue to work with our past vendors and expect to have an even better tank with the lessons we have learned. One very important lesson has been that you can't simply scale up equipment to fit the tank. The dynamics of a large tank are vastly different from that of a typical reef aquarium, and we all know how hard they can be to run as it is.
 
If you do opt to remove/replace the existing stand I would be curious to see if the floor is still level. The house itself was still fairly new when this tank went in and I'm curious if the foundation has settled a bit during the intervening years leading up to this terrible disaster.

Dave.M
 
I know there is nothing I, or anybody for that matter can say to you right now that will make this horrible situation feel any less so, but id just like to commend you on the way you have handled this, and the positive way in which you are looking at your future in the hobby. It probably seems that a serious amount of money was lost with this, but try to think of it as money well spent with regards to how much joy and education this tank brought to you.

Chin up mate, you and your family are still in good health.

Mark.

Peter and of course myself are delighted to hear the strong words of support from the RC community. Peter in particular is so proud to have friends spread across the globe who share his hobby and follow his person effort in it. Hearing kind words from Australia is an honour he doesn't take lightly.

Although Peter is very youthful, he has settled into retirement and the subsequent routine. As such, he doesn't travel much, and unlike many people in his income bracket he does not own a cottage, Island in the Caribbean, a yacht, or second home down south. What he does have is an extension of himself in his aquarium and through this community he has a network of fronds that is priceless. So any words of condolence, encouragement to go on, and "holy..." are greatly appreciated.

When the disaster occurred, the last thing on my mind was "what will Peter do". After some days had passed, it was an obvious question, but the answer wasn't as obvious. Knowing Peter for the past five years, I can assure you there wan;t a day where he spent less than an hour or two feeding the fish and inspecting the tank. As I've said before, he lives in a 10,000sq' house but you can invariably find him in the basement with his fish tank, like a teenager. That's what I was doing when I was 14 anyway. The aquarium has become such a significant part of his routine that he really can't change that without great sacrifice.

As Peter stated, it's impossible not to focus on the massive expense of rebuilding. Even this late in the game, Peter earned perhaps the greatest lesson of all, it really isn't about the money. Well of course it's about the money, or we would all have one of these in our homes, but once he waved the magic wand and took the cost off of the table, he was able to focus on how he truly felt on the matter. So if money is the only obstacle, then you revisit the idea and try to find an angle where you can make it work.

To answer the obvious question, Peter cannot just pull out a cheque book and pretend this never happened, and outside funding is sure to be a long drawn-out and painful process.

One of the many ways a large tank differs from a typical reef aquarium, is the ease of rebuilding. There have been many incidents oaf a fellow marine club member losing a 90 gallon tank. Quite often a new tank is acquired at a discount from a sympathetic vendor and fellow hobbyists jump in and donate excess livestock. A few frags from a dozen friends can get you back in the game overnight. This practice has proven to be a great way of building a coral livestock bank that we can all fall back on when we lose a particular coral species in our tanks. We are looking at a completely different process here but we are hoping to utilize whatever resources we can find to help numb the pain of the rebuild. Sanjay had an Acro die off that was absolutely devastating for him. Fortunately, he has friends who reached out tot him and helped restock his tank at the university without raising tuitions :)

So thanks, no effort too small and no effort too big in helping Peter get back in the game.
 
If you do opt to remove/replace the existing stand I would be curious to see if the floor is still level. The house itself was still fairly new when this tank went in and I'm curious if the foundation has settled a bit during the intervening years leading up to this terrible disaster.

Dave.M

That is not a new part of the house so it's about 15 years old IIRC. The basement under the theatre is about 7 years old though I believe.
 

I have never owned an aquarium from them, but they have excellent reviews and I have contacted them for quotes in the past. One of the issues for me is they are geographically far away and in another country so on site builds are tricky and shipping can be cost prohibitive.

When I initially heard about PVC bottom tanks I was cautiously optimistic. It's hard to put your faith in a technology/material that hasn't been in use for 10 or 20 years, but it has been long enough now that I support the building practice.

I'm sure there will be a new debate on here about glass vs. acrylic. They both have their merits and detractors, and often the grass is always greener on the other side of the glass. One thing for sure is cost shouldn't be the driving force behind a decision as it is a false economy.

If Peter went with a smaller aquarium, I would consider going with glass instead this time around. Having said that, sort from the absolute failure of the tank, I have no regrets with regard to clarity and scratches of acrylic tanks.
 
WOW! :( Thank you for the detailed description of the tank failure. It was painful to read. I hope you do go bigger and better as you clearly have a blue thumb. This was my first time reading your thread and obviously the latest development came as a total shock. Absolutely terrible and I hope ATM takes some responsibility here.

Peter asked me to proof read his write-up about the disaster just because of the shear size of it. I had troubles reading it and I was there. When a disaster of this magnitude occurs there is simply no time to dwell on the pain and depression. As time passes, a shift to rebuilding is a natural method of self preservation.
 
Why was ATM chosen over Envision, just curious?

Peter had purchased the Aquarium before I had met him. His original installer handled ATMs installs in the Toronto area so he was not given any other options. It was rather ironic that the split seam was on an ATM sticker that we never got around to taking off. It could only have been more prophetic if it was a "5 year warranty" sticker.
 
Coral Tank from Canada (1350gal Display Tank) - split

This epic thread just became even more so because an amazing group of people have opted to write up about the "worst part" of our hobby; catastrophic tank failure rather then just ending it as most others would do.

As someone else mentioned no doubt Peter will rise from the ashes like the Phoenix and have an even better plan on the redo.

I'm very sorry for the loss and like so many others on RC if we could we would love to have a way to help Peter recover. Maybe just words of encouragement are enough but I'm sure he knows he just has to ask and most of us would welcome the chance to assist in some way to get Peter back in the game and on top of the proverbial "Nineball"!
 
I like your attitude and thanks for sharing.
I feel for the organisms that perished and hope the remaining ones will get to see and live the rebuild.

Looking at that massive rip at the seam would make me think about additional support against the outward water pressure.

When one is designing a custom build, it's easy to get caught up in the aesthetics of the tank itself. Nobody wants ugly braces on the seams, they offer a peace of mind that is far more valuable. In most cases, braces are hidden by framing and sand anyway.

Good to hear from Iceland. One more pin on the map :)
 
Actually we put water in the tank on July 1 2010........

Peter

I stand corrected. I believe I said we put water in the tank March 2010. That was in fact the delivery date.

One of the many benefits of this thread is EVERYTHING is documented.
 
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