Coral Tank from Canada (1350gal Display Tank)

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Thanks Mr Wilson, I understand this subject better know. Has any water changes been done yet on the display tank yet? How much water changes do you think will have to be done monthly? Lastly what salt do you guys use?
 
Nothing of this nature is off topic......in fact quite timely as we are planning the setup of a small 120gal hospital tank that will not have any skimmer or refugium as part of the protocol for a true ICU environment. Mr. Wilson will be more appropriate to answer your question as I remain far too much of a novice for anything useful.

Peter

Peter,

Thanks for taking interest in my question. I believe that you have the best mentor available and with all the time you can spare for learning you will quickly master the subject. I am awaiting further thoughts and explanations on the subject from Shawn.

Dainius
 
Wow! The aquarium is really looking great.

I say just keep getting those little frags to fill it up. The way Mr. Wilson is going with his best practice and secret formulas, those frags will giant in no time!

Mr. Wilson, may I say your mini chapter on water changes was the most accurate and concise piece I have ever seen on the subject. Those religous water change fundamentalists will be rethinking their actions and those staunch political anti water change wingers wil be doing the same.
 
Thanks Mr Wilson, I understand this subject better know. Has any water changes been done yet on the display tank yet? How much water changes do you think will have to be done monthly? Lastly what salt do you guys use?

We change 20% (200 gallons) every two weeks, which we are soon changing to 10% (100 gallons) per week. So far, we have been draining the display (6"), then filling (the sump), but we will be changing to draining (display) and filling (sump) at the same time. We have two 220 gallon vats with aerated and well mixed Reef Crystals. When we get down to the 100 gallon mark, we will stop the water change. The tank is big enough to do it at the same time without draining too much new water with the old. The drain is part of the closed loop intake.
 
Peter and Shawn. You guys are the best for this hobby.
Thank you so much for devoting your time and effort for us.

Thank you very much, we couldn't have done it without your guidance and inspiration. Peter uses your tank as his reference and sometimes his bible:) Once Peter's tank makes it to the next level of development we will have to start the Master Reef Tank tour. We will definitely see yours while it is winter here :celeb3:
 
great pictures. I am waiting patiently for pictures of the mangrove wall!

The mangrove wall is complete. Both units are mounted on the wall, both plasma lights are running, the magic mud is in and rinsed, the 200 mangrove pods are looking a little grim, but most have new roots sprouting out. The pumps that feed the two walls also feed our Profilux controller probe holder, so today is controller day... Finally!

Pictures to follow soon.
 
Wow! The aquarium is really looking great.

I say just keep getting those little frags to fill it up. The way Mr. Wilson is going with his best practice and secret formulas, those frags will giant in no time!

Mr. Wilson, may I say your mini chapter on water changes was the most accurate and concise piece I have ever seen on the subject. Those religous water change fundamentalists will be rethinking their actions and those staunch political anti water change wingers wil be doing the same.

Peter is enjoying the frags, but he really wants big pieces. His doctor just gave him a clean bill of health so I don't know what his hurry is :) I keep telling him about the joys of watching your children grow, but he wants instant gratification. The tank is his baby and I'm married to the tank, so I guess that makes me his 43 year old son-in-law. Like I said, instant gratification :hmm5:

Sometimes a best practice is indisputable, while other times it is best to make a marginally slanted pros and cons list and let people make up their own minds. It isn't always about coming to the same conclusion that I come to, or even making the right decision for that matter (sometimes they are even the same); it's about trying different technologies and methodologies and seeing what works for you.

I can expound the virtues of skimmerless tanks or UV/ozone-free systems, and limiting water changes to whatever the protein skimmer and refugium harvest removes, but in the end I hedge my bets and do a little of everything. Once your system is working perfectly (if you ever make it) you can start unplugging devices one by one and see if it makes a difference. A true evaluation of technologies and methodologies can only be reached once you have established best practices for each discipline. In other words, you can't say your refugium isn't making a difference if you haven't explored high intensity lighting, shallow culture vessels, and proper sizing of it. Again, my concerns lies with people taking away only part of the message, of course, the part they want to hear... "good, I never liked doing water changes anyway" :)
 
Peter,

Not sure if you've been to ReefQuarium yet ... he's located in Markham & not in Scarborough.

Paul

We were supposed to go see Ken last week when we saw the other Ken, but ran out of time. We will be sure to make it out to see him, and drop down to see John at NAFB after... if we have time :)

I think we might be doing a field trip to ORG just down the street from Peter's today.
 
Peter if you are decided to go to LA I have some large corals that might be good for your tank

It's too bad we need re-export CITES permits to get stuff from our friendly neighbours to the south. I think coral and seahorses should have been included in NAFTA.
 
You are right....they are in the Wilson's Bar and they will stay there. The tank is just the right size and we can control the light and flow should we decide to breed them. I'm pretty sure they would never survive in the display tank because of flow and competition. Again the Wilson's Bars are turning out to be a great tourist attraction as we hoped from the beginning. It makes for very interesting distractions for kids along with the Scorpion fish. Adults find them equally as fascinating.

Peter

Hello Mr. Peter,
Beautiful system, and amazing community here, Im just glad you are so generous to be posting all info and sharing your beautiful tank and home with us :) maybe one day I get to visit your system in person :) truly impressed :)

if you ever do decide to go with breeding seahorses, (I am sure you have the room and knowledge and .... for it so you should!) I can bring you ALOT of seahorse fry weekly, I have multiple seahorse tanks, and used to breed them, but since I live in a smaller condo, I dont have the room for it no more, and the fry goto waist basically. so would be glad to donate all my fry to you if you do develop a nursery :) I see you have a great team here :) but if I can help with anything, would be glad to.

thanks again for sharing your dream tank with us :)
 
We were supposed to go see Ken last week when we saw the other Ken, but ran out of time. We will be sure to make it out to see him, and drop down to see John at NAFB after... if we have time :)

I think we might be doing a field trip to ORG just down the street from Peter's today.

If you guys ever think about visiting NAFB in the near future pls. do PM or e-mail me prior to NAFB visit ... I would be glad to meet up with you guys ... :celeb1:

Thx,
Paul
 
mr.wilson said:
Pictures to follow soon.
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mr.wilson said:
my concerns lie with people taking away only part of the message, of course, the part they want to hear...
The way to do that is to provide complete answers, as you have done. Things need to be framed in context; if x then y. That way people can walk away with a complete method, know what they are looking for and what they should be striving to achieve before leaping to wrong conclusions. I will be following this basic methodology when I edit your book. :wink:

Dave.M
 
Peter, have you looked into getting larger colonies from fellow reefers in your area? Its seems that fairly often on my local message boards someone is posting a large colony for sale simply because it is too large for their system. Also, I think more often than not, when those of us with smaller systems have a colony get too large we chop it up into a bunch of frags, because they are easier to sell than a whole colony. If you get the word out to the local clubs I'm sure you will be able to at least get a start on your collection (although I'm sure you could wipe out all the local clubs and still have 90% of the tank left to fill).
 
Hello Mr. Peter,
Beautiful system, and amazing community here, Im just glad you are so generous to be posting all info and sharing your beautiful tank and home with us :) maybe one day I get to visit your system in person :) truly impressed :)

if you ever do decide to go with breeding seahorses, (I am sure you have the room and knowledge and .... for it so you should!) I can bring you ALOT of seahorse fry weekly, I have multiple seahorse tanks, and used to breed them, but since I live in a smaller condo, I dont have the room for it no more, and the fry goto waist basically. so would be glad to donate all my fry to you if you do develop a nursery :) I see you have a great team here :) but if I can help with anything, would be glad to.

thanks again for sharing your dream tank with us :)

Thank you Allmost, I appreciate your encouragement and support. You are welcome to visit, in fact I would appreciate it if you did because I would like to see what I might be able to do with the sea horses from someone with experience. My hope is to do the same thing with some clown expertise and I think I have found my resource for that. If you PM me I will give you my coordinates and we can get together.

Peter
 
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