Crosshatch trigger 911 HELP

[enjetek]

I mean personally usually fish that stop eating I try to interact with them as little as possible to gain courage. I would dump in your food and hopefully it seeing the other fish would help to make it start eating. Sometimes there are just fish that don't make it you know? there are even stories where fish eat all the time and appear healthy and just drop dead suddenly. That's the way of this hobby sometimes

 

[Dkuhlmann]

Guys please... no fighting :| I did treat pp for 5 days as the instructions say from 5 to 7, then I did a water change ran skimmer uv purigen and carbon for 3 days then dosed pp again but couldn't do the second dose for 5 to 7 as they started breathing profusely and I could barely see them through the cloudy water so I cut the second treatment to 3 days and did another water. Yesterday I actually tried feeding my trigger with a thin piece of wood they serve shrimp skewers with and a piece of my food blend at the tip and literally held it in front of his mouth as if feeding an eel or what not. He literally just looked at it then me and he flipping turned around and have me his tail. When I took the food out he turned back around as he was. None of them are really showing signs of flukes anymore though. No more darting, shaking of their heads twitching finds etc. It's been maybe a 8 10 days since my last water change and turning back on all my filtration. My water parameters are all good atm, fish are pretty much all eating looking good, it's just my trigger. I really don't want to do anymore unnecessary treatments or other meds IF they aren't needed. If it's a must then so be it but I just find it odd that everyone has gone from signs of flukes and suppressed appetite then back to normal but my trigger still just hiding and refusing to eat. What else can I try other than to just wait it out?

Not fighting at all. I simply said he needed to reread your OP as you had treated, he said unless you treat that death would follow, or something along those lines. (I'm not going back to copy and paste this)

Simple really you treated with Prazipro (it was put in your tank and left for several days) If you hadn't put anything in then I would have agreed with him. :headwally:

 

[manny532]

I just felt like there was a little tension in the thread. Thanks for the advice everyone. Well I killed the bright leds and only left the dim ones and don't plan on turning them back on any times soon. Just got home from my lfs and bought 5 bucks worth of ghost shrimp about to dump them right in front of him with hopes he sees them and is provoked to hunt and eat. Will keep posted but if there is anything anyone can think of or if anyone has experienced what my babies are going through any tips would be highly appreciated.

 

[manny532]

And yes, damn the unexplained down sides of this hobby

 

[manny532]

Oh and about the exp pp got me curious and I looked for the date on the bottle, 10/2019.

 

[Neebles]

Another stupid question....did you shake up the bottle of Prazi real good? Like real real good, then shake it again?

 

[manny532]

Never such a thing as a stupid question. Sometimes one of those questions ends up being the thing we over look. I shook the bajesus out of that bottle.

 

[Neebles]

Never such a thing as a stupid question. Sometimes one of those questions ends up being the thing we over look. I shook the bajesus out of that bottle.

Good, now shake it some more. Lol. I had to ask, I hope you figure out what is going on soon! Cheers!

 

[manny532]

:/ lol, thanks. At this point I'm just starting to hope it was a Domino effect from flukes, medicine, water quality for turning off filtration while the meds were in place, more medicine and now just a matter of time until he gets over it. I mean, everyone else is now fine. Eating swimming etc, just him.....

 

[Dmorty217]

:/ lol, thanks. At this point I'm just starting to hope it was a Domino effect from flukes, medicine, water quality for turning off filtration while the meds were in place, more medicine and now just a matter of time until he gets over it. I mean, everyone else is now fine. Eating swimming etc, just him.....

My limited experience with Crosshatch triggers I would say that him not eating and trying to adjust back to normal is... normal. It took 5 days or so for the male that I got 3 weeks ago this coming wednesday to eat and even now he is still very timid and will hide or seek shelter when I come up to feed the Bandit and him. At this rate it will be a few months before he sees me as food and not a threat

 

[manny532]

I really hope that's what it is. Just adjusting back.... It's just hard to accept how much he would swim and eat to now just watch him hide all day and not eat.

 

[Dmorty217]

Are you sure that the flukes are gone?

 

[dankreef]

I have had to treat flukes before 3 times with like 7 day doses to get rid of it. 100 bucks he still has flukes. Not eating is a tall tale sign of fluke infestation.

 

[manny532]

Can't be 100 percent because I can't see them but the signs the fishes showed are gone. No more twitching bodies, fins, heads.... no more darting around, and appetite has been back to normal shortly since after my last treatment and water change. Literally on my second treatment third day that I stopped treatment, water was so cloudy I could only see fishes swimming right in front of the glass because of how cloudy my water was. If they were about a foot or so from the glass it was like a shadow swimming by. All of them were breathing profusely showing minimal to no interest in their favorite foods. My blue face angel was laying on his side on the gravel in a corner, I had not seen my black tang or my hippo tang those last 3 days. I did a water change turned back on all my filtration and the first maybe two days they would shake really bad which made me think the treatment didn't work but then I read on a forum somewhere that it was normal after fluke treatments. Anyways after that my fishes were back. Swimming around and eating like pigs and no signs.

 

[manny532]

Dank, even though none of the other fish are showing any signs? I could understand if from the getgo it was only him, but it effected all of them and after the second treatment everyone is now fine just him. Could it be posible?

 

[manny532]

If I can get at least a second opinion that it's most likely still flukes for him I don't know how but I'll take him out and throw him in my 80 gallon qt by himself. If not then wait it out to see if it's just stress from flukes meds and water quality and now just re adjusting.

 

[220tang]

Just out of curiosity and throwing this out there your water changes and constant change of water could be stressing the fish out even more I understand why you are doing that but the little things could be just adding more stress is there a change in water temp with the water change and how are you getting the water in the tank cause a drastic change in water flow from something like dumping a bucket in there could stress him out even more sounds like you have some amazing fish hope all goes well!

 

[220tang]

If I can get at least a second opinion that it's most likely still flukes for him I don't know how but I'll take him out and throw him in my 80 gallon qt by himself. If not then wait it out to see if it's just stress from flukes meds and water quality and now just re adjusting.

I really think you hit it right on with this one sounds like a lot of stress to me I think he is just still recovering and I would hate for you to treat the tank again and put all your other fish through another treatment

 

[manny532]

Thanks 220. I do my water changes with a 40 gallon and 20 gallon trash can. I cut the water from my return pump and only leave the wp60 in my tank on. I pick up as much detritus and junk from my sump with a pump hooked up to a hose that leads to the street. Then to refill I throw the same pump in the bins and the end of the hose to my sump. I normally will change roughly 40 gallons a month never as much as I have but also given the circumstances of the pp and water quality. I do feel that perhaps the amount of water changed in the amount of time may have added stress which is more reason I'm stuck in limbo. Should I wait, should I remove and retreat. If he still has flukes and I wait it's a death sentence. If he's just stressed from flukes then meds water quality then lots of recent water being changed to just remove him from his current tank stress, new tank more stress and treat again especially if he no longer has flukes... death. Fml.. :c

 

[manny532]

Oh and about the temp I'm guilty.. i didn't heat it up those last two times before throwing it in the sump. Normally I would but I didn't see more than a 2 degree drop in water and it was a very slow drop. From the water being pumped slowly back to my display and quickly being mixed up in my tank by the in tank flow it was very slow.