CT 400 Build

[ca1ore]

I'll start this in the same way that I did my last build thread - it's going to be a slow gestation. Further, I'm going to have to find a photobucket alternative because it's driving me nuts.

About to order a 400, 8' long, 3' wide, 30" tall. My first acrylic . Old 265 is full, both for fish and for corals. Tank will take 10-12 weeks, so time over the Summer to build a new stand, work out what additional floor reinforcements will be required, and collect any incremental kit necessary.

Most of what I have will suffice, though the vortech MP40 pumps will likely not work on 1" thick walls. Will need a better overflow, probably 36" modular marine model. Will need another 100 lbs of sand, give or take. Lots of plumbing and containers for holding livestock and water during the swap. Finally, 4-5 strong lads.

To be continued .....

 

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[WatDatThing]

Whopping 400. Can't wait to see it.

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[iced98lx]

Looking forward to it. I am a big fan of Flickr if you are using a computer to compose your updates. Their mobile app is good for uploading/organizing but doesn't provide a handy BB code like their desktop interface does. That said, you can chose a size for your BB code photo on desktop which I find handy. Unlike photobucket I've never had it slow to a crawl, not work or take forever for photos uploaded from mobile to show on the web interface on my computer.

Downside is that their generated BB code includes a link to the Flickr page for your photo and your flickr user.

 

[ca1ore]

Since my system display is on a floor above the mechanicals, I'm going to take advantage of gravity as much as possible and eliminate a pump or two. Drain siphon already feeds the ATS, but I'm going to use it feed the separate refugium and frag tank as well.

Also going for lots of swimming room, so corals will not be closer than 12 inches to the front. Will also allow me to use the lights I have for the rear 24" and really limit the light that hits the front. Last time I had a 36" wide tank I did this and got almost no algae on the front. Planning a wooden 'skirt' around the tank so that any algae that does build up next to the sand can be ignored.

 

[scott11106]

i too am building a 300-400g tank but i am on a bit longer of a time line as i am starting the process of building a new fish room by building a new house around it....

I just found some land am about to pull the trigger on the house process but i will follow your thread as we are doing the same process.
Do you know what brand or who will build your tank?

do you have any new equipment spec'ed yet?

 

[chuckbuc]

Who is building the tank ?i also went acrylic on my new 400 ..its my first acrylic too.. are u nervous about scratching it ?...i am.alitte

 

[ca1ore]

Who is building the tank ?i also went acrylic on my new 400 ..its my first acrylic too.. are u nervous about scratching it ?...i am.alitte

Probably going with a modified model from fishtanksdirect in FL. My first plastic tank. Nervous ..... terrified!!! :lol:

 

[ca1ore]

do you have any new equipment spec'ed yet?

Mostly it's equipment already in service on my 265. I will need a second Vortech MP60, particularly if my current MP40s prove unusable on a 1" tank. May also need one more Radion, though I plan an open area front to back in the tank that won't require bright lighting. I'm not a huge-flow-through-sump proponent, so my PW200 should suffice as the main return pump. Skimmer is sized for 600 gallons, CaRx for the same. Sump already oversized 1t 150 gallons so no issues there.

 

[chuckbuc]

What's ur plans on cleaning the glass/acrylic

 

[ca1ore]

I'll be shading the front pane, so expecting low algae growth. Been advised to use acrylic intended mag float with magic eraser. Dont leave magnet cleaner in the tank. Also as noted I'm going to make a skirt that will cover the sand so I can leave a strip of uncleared front thus avoiding picking up any sand. Beyond that just being very careful.

Check out my large acrylic tank thread in the reef discussion forum.

 

[ca1ore]

This is the most recent picture of my 265 - quite full as you can see. With some trimming and moving 'damage' I figure I can get it all into the 400. Going to build the new stand with the same plywood 'microlams' as before - worked really well and was incredibly rigid. Tank sits over a weight bearing foundation wall, so will add an additional jack post, but that's about it.

 

[sfsuphysics]

Probably going with a modified model from fishtanksdirect in FL. My first plastic tank. Nervous ..... terrified!!! :lol:

Try to get a beater acrylic tank, and practice how to remove scratches underwater you're gonna need it

Also what's your backup plan when your anemones don't stay on your island?

 

[dave.m]

No, no. A 400 is never going to hold that lot in place. I'd go bigger. :wink:

Dave.M

 

[ca1ore]

Also what's your backup plan when your anemones don't stay on your island?

I only keep mags and they mostly do stay put at the top. Only had one floater in 25 years ..... and it didn't end well. I have personally designed guards on the vortechs.

 

[victorcan]

Im in the market for a 400 tank, been researching glass however, I have never had an acrylic tank and have always been scared.. Your 265 is glass right?

 

[nsfishguy]

What is your plan with the 265 when you setup the new tank?

 

[ca1ore]

I have been thinking about a bigger tank for a while and have debated glass versus acrylic. I did explore options and builders for both. I do worry about scratching with acrylic, but experienced users have assured me that it is quite manageable. The weight of the 400 gallon acrylic tank is about 500 pounds empty, the same sized glass tank is about 1,300. Cost (once freight is factored in) is about the same.

I haven't given a great deal of thought to the fate of the 265 (a glass tank). It's 4 years old, so plenty of life left in it and it ought to be saleable; though large used tanks are hard to move at anything more than pennies on the dollar. I have plenty of storage space in the garage, so probably I will try to sell it at a fair price; failing that I'll just store it until certain I won't reuse it for something else; or maybe donate it to a local club.

 

[victorcan]

I have been thinking about a bigger tank for a while and have debated glass versus acrylic. I did explore options and builders for both. I do worry about scratching with acrylic, but experienced users have assured me that it is quite manageable. The weight of the 400 gallon acrylic tank is about 500 pounds empty, the same sized glass tank is about 1,300. Cost (once freight is factored in) is about the same.

I haven't given a great deal of thought to the fate of the 265 (a glass tank). It's 4 years old, so plenty of life left in it and it ought to be saleable; though large used tanks are hard to move at anything more than pennies on the dollar. I have plenty of storage space in the garage, so probably I will try to sell it at a fair price; failing that I'll just store it until certain I won't reuse it for something else; or maybe donate it to a local club.

Would make for a phenomenal basement sump/fuge was honestly considering using my 220 as a Fuge if I can get a decent priced 400

 

[nsfishguy]

You should just setup the 265 as well, you know you will need it too. A lot more fish and corals to be had, LOL!!!!