Cycled 200 gallon tank seeks Ingens

[tjdouglas]

Hi,

Do you know if they ship abdominalis to the uk????also how much they are asking for a pair????.

I do not know if they ship to the UK. But you could send them an email from their website and ask them. Just go to: http://www.seahorse.com/contact/ocean-rider--aqua-farm-&-tours-physical-address/

Also here is their contact info:

Ocean Rider - Aqua Farm & Tours Physical Address
Address:
73-4388 Ilikai Place
Kailua Kona
Hawaii
USA
96740

Telephone: 808-329-6840
Fax: 808-329-6841

 

[TamiW]

I think they raised these themselves. I've been talking to them about this batch for over 2 months now... and I saw them myself when they were too small... I don't know what they did in the past but I do believe they grew up on their facility. I should see them on thursday. Will take lots of picks... I'm sure they will be on the small side.

Be wary of them if they're on the small side. Ingens are especially touchy, and there are a number of people who lost theirs when live aquaria was selling tiny little ingens. I wouldn't consider them if they're under 4-5". This is a big seahorse at maturity, so they really need some size on them to be considered mature enough to travel and do well in home aquariums.

If they *are* really tiny when they arrive, I would recommend keeping them in a much smaller tank and treating them like you would older seahorse fry with multiple feedings a day.

 

[TamiW]

Hi,

Do you know if they ship abdominalis to the uk????also how much they are asking for a pair????.

I would expect they don't - shipping to the UK would require much additional paperwork and cost. If they do, I'd expect to be paying a couple hundred, at least, just for the shipping. You'll have to coordinate with customs in the UK as well to receive the shipment. I believe DEFRA is the organization that handles importing animals to the UK.

 

[Sophiesherd]

Thanks Tami... I'm hoping they aren't too small. I have a cycled 16 gallon ready for them if need be...otherwise they get the big tank. OR recommends up to 75 degrees. They were about 3 inches or so 5-6 weeks ago. I'm not sure how fast they grow.

 

[timinnl]

April would be great I also noticed that Dan at Seahorse source seems to be working on a hybrid of erectus and reidi......sounds very interesting.

The hybrids were given to him to raise by a researcher. Quote: We did not breed these intentionally. The fry were given to us as extra from a project a researcher was working on. We probably won't continue with hybrids, we prefer to keep species pure. They can take on the traits of either species. In theory, they can take on brighter colors like the H. reidi yet be easier to rear than pure reidi. We found they were easier to rear but a bit more of a challenge than pure erectus. This particular batch is voracious in their eating habits. More like erectus than reidi.


Kind Regards,

Tim

 

[timinnl]

Hi,

Do you know if they ship abdominalis to the uk????also how much they are asking for a pair????.

Hi Sue,

As Tami explained, the cost and amount of paperwork required does not make is cost effective to send a pair or two.

They should be available again soon from De Jong a wholesaler here in the Netherlands.

Kind Regards,

Tim

 

[timinnl]

Thanks Tami... I'm hoping they aren't too small. I have a cycled 16 gallon ready for them if need be...otherwise they get the big tank. OR recommends up to 75 degrees. They were about 3 inches or so 5-6 weeks ago. I'm not sure how fast they grow.

Is the 16 gallon their quarantine tank? If not, you need to reconsider getting them. They require a much larger tank and lower temp at around 70 to 72 degrees. Most ingens do not do well at 75 degrees.

Kind Regards,

Tim

 

[Sophiesherd]

Thanks Tim... I'm the original poster... My Ingens will be in a 200 gallon tank and will have plenty of room - and I do have a chiller. The 16 gallon is for emergencies. I'll post pictures after Thursday.

 

[tjdouglas]

Any pics??? Pretty please?

 

[Sophiesherd]

There was a delay.... not sure why but I'm expecting them the coming Thursday... Will definitely post photos....

 

[pledosophy]

Can't wait for the pics. Good luck.

 

[tjdouglas]

Did you get your new Ingens yet???

 

[Sophiesherd]

They are all adjusted and exploring there new world.... a little small but that will change!
I'll post pics as soon as I figure out how....

 

[Sophiesherd]

Little giants

Little giants

I hope I've attached them correctly but here they are.... my baby Ingens...

 

[tjdouglas]

wow...small but very beautiful! Great pictures Thanks so much for sharing.

 

[tjdouglas]

How are they doing today? Was this a pair that came as a package deal?

 

[Sophiesherd]

I bought 6 of them - not as a package deal - they are $115 on Ocean Rider's site. They do have a package deal but it is actually more expensive... My Ingens are all active and healthy. Some are bigger than others. I'm watching their food consumption. Sometimes they seem great at eating and other times the little ones seem to watch the food go by. I will have to feed them many times a day because they are so small. For now I'm feeding them a variety of mysids (sometimes with probiotics) and live brine... I have a feeding station and I'm doing using a turkey baster to put it in front of them too. Lots of work but it will be fun to watch them grow. I wouldn't recommend getting them at this size unless you can do extra feedings.

 

[tjdouglas]

Thanks so much for all of the details! I was thinking of buying a pair. But if they are still small and need several feedings per day then perhaps I should wait.

 

[TamiW]

I would consider putting the smaller ones in the 16 gallon treat them like you would older fry. At that size they need extra coddling. Plus a separate tank helps you determine of they're eating better (poops!) and is easier to keep the food concentrated where they can see it. Because they're the same species, you should be fine plumbing the two tanks together. Is the 16g bare-bottom? If not, I'd remove the sand too; because it will make observing whether or not they eat easier.

Forgot to mention this earlier, but OR has in the past sold cold water seahorses as being safe for warmer tanks, to the detriment of the seahorses. Scores of H. capensis died because they were sold as being able to live at tropical temperatures by Ocean Rider. In short, don't trust what they say about temp.

 

[mtc1966]

very nice good luck with them