DAS skimmer club

warr40 this will help you....

There are 3 controls on the skimmer:

1. INPUT controlled by gravity feed from overflow with ball or gate valve "or" pump feed with a correctly rated pump

2. OUTPUT controlled by ball or gate valve at skimmer's drain

3. AIRFLOW controlled by air valve


To set your skimmer correctly:

1. first you must be sure the water flow through rate is matched to your skimmer. most of the time, for gravity feed, one would need to tailor the rate back by ball or gate valve in control #1 as the water turnover rate is usually much stronger than your skimmer can accept. or you can feed skimmer with a correctly rated pump or powerhead.
<img src="http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/583/118362Gravity_Feed_Plumbing.jpg">

2. next, with the water flow through rate adjusted correctly, the water level within the skimmer must be at the right level for the skimmer to perform optimally. water level should just at the bottom edge of the bayonet connection between the collection cup and skimmer body. the highest water level you should have is no higher than the top edge of the bayonet top edge and the lowest is no lower than 3/4" below the bayonet connection. i like the skimmer water level on the high side, so even when the water flow through rate is correct, the water level is too low for me. so, in order to tailor back the outflow from the skimmer drain and to raise the water level within the skimmer, i use a ball valve or gate valve on the output, which is control #2, and the drain does terminate underwater in my sump. so, the comment that the outflow should not be underwater is a preferred situation, but works great even if you terminate underwater (unless with the correct water flow through rate, the water level in your skimmer is already at the top edge of the bayonet). all that happens when the exhaust terminates underwater is puts a little backpressure on the system, but that just increases the water level in the skimmer, which in my situation is on the low side when the water flow through rate adjusted correctly. the benefit of having the drain terminate underwater is no splashing noise at all, but your sump water level must remain constant or the change can put variable backpressure on the exhaust. i found that the best sump water level is within an inch below the exhaust T-fitting.
<img src="http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/583/118362Deltec_Water_Level-med.jpg">

3. adjust the air valve for maximum foaming with control #3. on both my Deltec and H&S skimmers that i own, it is tailored back approximately 1/4 - 1/3 which gives me the finest bubbles and good foaming head. if the bubble breaking level isn't correct, close down the exhaust valve a little to raise or open up to lower.
<img src="http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/583/118362Deltec_Bubble_Break_Level-med.jpg">

HTH, this is just one example of how it can work. many others have different ways that they setup their skimmers.
 
Warr ... I believe that the issue is probably having all that live rock in relatively low volume of water. Either that or there was some type of residue on the plastic container assuming it was new and not adequately cleaned. Or a combination of both.

Anyway, with the output valve you installed you should be able to get things under control. You'll just have to play with turnover through the skimmer, water level and air. Assuming that you lowered the ouput T fitting when you installed the valve you should have a good degree of control over water level regardless the input flow rate.
 
yes i am warr40 on NR.com too

USC-fan i followed those directions and its getting better

I think the skimmer just needs to break-in and i wont know for sure until i set it up on my 40B
 
Not much, so far I just clean the cup and dump the overflow bottle about every two weeks. I imagine I will eventually clean the rotors.
 
I am just going through my first full body and pump cleaning. Basically remove it, run it full of vinegar/water for awhile, scrub the interior and inside of the pipes until clean, clean all the parts of the pump individually, reassemble and run in water for while to remove any residue.

THen hook it back up.
 
If it's in sump, I wouldnt glue it. If it's external, I would and did. You are talking about the skimmer output right? I have several spare schedule 40 spears unions so I can re-do the plumbing from the output side of the union if I ever need to. But I would glue it if running externally. I dont glue the vent pipe on the top side of the output T, that's not necessary as the water doesnt get that high.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11261039#post11261039 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by PaintGuru
What sort of regular maintenance (beyond cup cleaning) are people doing on their skimmers?
I just clean my whole skimmer. Its been running for about 8 months. The pump still look new so i didn't soak them. I just scrub the skimmer body and that was about it.

Sometimes my air lines get salt creep in them and i run hot RODI water through them. That is about the only thing i do beside clean the skimmer cup/neck twice a week.
 
i have a ? have the ex1 and i use the minijet 606 fully open ,with valve fully open and i have 1/4 ince tubbing in the veturi going to the top of collection cup to muffel noise .should i be useing a bigger pump like a maxijet of some sort cause i get one collection cup a week .granted it is black not see threw at all ?
 
If you can get your water level high enough then the pump is fine.
How hig is the water level with the recirc. pump shut off or the air line blocked or the air valve closed all the way?
 
I like my water right around here. \/
118362deltecwaterlevelmyx1.jpg

That is with the skimmer pump off.

Now if you can't get the water level near there, you have to get a new pump..maxijet 900/1200 or you have to do a gate mod.
 
I just plugged in my das-ex2 for the first time and one of the pumps isn't drawing air or doing anything but its warm to the touch. The other pump is working fine and cool to the touch. Any ideas?
 
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