My starry blenny keeps my DT bryopsis free. I even let it grow in the fuge so she has something to graze on up there.
Sorry for going completely off point, but is that an Irish Wolfhound?
Mike
Dear Bryopsis,
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Sorry for going completely off point, but is that an Irish Wolfhound?
Mike
dkeller_nc
New member
One aspect to consider is that many report losing snails & shrimp when treating the tank with TechM. That wasn't my experience, but I also didn't count all of the snails to ensure that they were doing OK during the 4 weeks I was treating the tank. If you've some valuable shrimp or (potentially) mollusks, you might consider moving them to a QT during your treatment.
Reef Frog
New member
I certainly respect this point of view. But my issue is that if you have one mystery ingredient you may have others. They may be harmless, but they may not be harmless in these high concentrations. There was a recent thread here where several people reported deaths of SPS (momtipora I believe) using high levels for this purpose.
Kent should isolate this secret ingredient, test it and offer it as an independent product. But there may be dozens of reasons why they may not want to do this.
PEROXIDE
Several people say it didn't work. I believe they did something wrong. Not enough product, didn't give it enough time, used an old bottle, didn't cap it properly after use....who knows?
Peroxide should always work on soft bodied algae. It's an oxidant. I looked at some after treatment under a microscope and it clearly eroded the cellular walls. The trick is not using enough to damage coral tissue. In high concentrations it can be hard on coral. It can zap shrimp. Spot treatment is the most effective method and its easy to control any negative side effects. Whole tank treatment works too but takes considerably longer to show results. Physical removal during the process is important too. It's so easy, cheap & without any long term consequences- so it is worthy of consideration IMO.
BigB is one tough opponent. It can persist, even thrive, in very low nutrient water. Whatever method is used for eradication, nutrient levels must be driven down and kept that way for some time. Good luck to all in the fight, whichever method you choose.
davocean
Active member
Kent actually did respond to this and explained why they could not disclose their process but I don't recall what the reason was, maybe someone has a link to their response.
Yes I do recall the thread of mostly fairly new reefers, I think 5-6 of them stating issues w/ monti's.
I see people have issues and point to possibilities all the time that may or may not be the cause.
You will find a much larger number of people and threads on here stating no issues at all, and I can say I'm one of them, and not just the handful of tanks that were mine, but tanks I took care of as well.
I have never had a negative experience from this treatment.
I do agree to not treat anything w/out identifying the issue properly first, and yes, like anything results can vary, I'm just sharing my experience and saying it has been a very good option for myself and a great many others on here.
Yes I do recall the thread of mostly fairly new reefers, I think 5-6 of them stating issues w/ monti's.
I see people have issues and point to possibilities all the time that may or may not be the cause.
You will find a much larger number of people and threads on here stating no issues at all, and I can say I'm one of them, and not just the handful of tanks that were mine, but tanks I took care of as well.
I have never had a negative experience from this treatment.
I do agree to not treat anything w/out identifying the issue properly first, and yes, like anything results can vary, I'm just sharing my experience and saying it has been a very good option for myself and a great many others on here.
dkeller_nc
New member
As I understand it, Kent does know the trace contaminant that has the desired effect on Bryopsis. However, they can't market the ingredient alone or TechM itself as an algaecide, as that would require a great deal of safety testing and registration with the USDA.
Scorpius
Stick Head
Maybe grease someone's hands a little to get them to talk. :lolspin:
TheDeepSandBed
New member
I recently did the Kent M treatment in my tank. I had mag around 1375 before and had to raise it to 1900-2000 range before seeing any result.
Long story short, the bryopsis did die back A LOT but not entirely as I see a strand here and there still. My corals and inverts HATED the treatment. My fighting conch didn't move for two weeks and only after my third large water change did it come out of its coma. My corals are still all suffering from what looks like STN. Oddly enough though some corals didn't bat an eyelash and are going strong. Overall I lost probably 4-5 smaller encrusted frags. If I'm honest if I could do it over again I would avoid the treatment and just manually remove until it got untenable. I would also recomment moving any corals that show any sign of stress (if you have another tank). Wish I did....
just my 2 cents
Long story short, the bryopsis did die back A LOT but not entirely as I see a strand here and there still. My corals and inverts HATED the treatment. My fighting conch didn't move for two weeks and only after my third large water change did it come out of its coma. My corals are still all suffering from what looks like STN. Oddly enough though some corals didn't bat an eyelash and are going strong. Overall I lost probably 4-5 smaller encrusted frags. If I'm honest if I could do it over again I would avoid the treatment and just manually remove until it got untenable. I would also recomment moving any corals that show any sign of stress (if you have another tank). Wish I did....
just my 2 cents
Scorpius
Stick Head
Thanks. I'll have this stuff on hand and will only use it unless it becomes unmanageable.
soulpatch
New member
look into peroxide paste. Faster then simply dosing peroxide and VERY effective. I couldnt take all of my rock out for dipping so had to dose the tank. It breaks down pretty fast once in the water stream so the results seemingly take too long for us impatient ones. So I mixed the peroxide with baking soda to form a paste for spot treatments. I would do it during water changes by killing all flow and then putting the paste on the areas that needed it. Algae was gone in a couple shots and doesn't come back in that treated area for some time.
Tech M worked somewhat for me but I had trouble getting rid of it all as it would battle it back but then I would have it get out of control shortly after as the stragglers took over. Peroxide however took complete control of the situation for me.
Tech M worked somewhat for me but I had trouble getting rid of it all as it would battle it back but then I would have it get out of control shortly after as the stragglers took over. Peroxide however took complete control of the situation for me.
Scorpius
Stick Head
I wonder if I have some different variety of Bryopsis or something completely different. It grows like grass that just sprouted in your lawn. Each individual strand develops two branches. Whatever it is gfo, nutrient control, and my cleanup crew is taking care of it right now.
I'd take a picture, but this stuff is so small and short.
I'd take a picture, but this stuff is so small and short.
Scorpius
Stick Head
It's odd because it looks like it wants to do that fern thing like Bryopsis. :lol: I wonder what it is then.
