Anthony.Luciano
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will gfo work at all for this or will that only absorb phosphates.
Deep Sand Bed -- Anatomy & Terminology
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Aquarist007
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gfo does not remove toxins--carbon is the best for that
ok i just read through the thread and all the "scholarly" arguments here. Of course, there are both sides represented but here is my set up.
180 new system with about 1-2 inches of sand in it.
60 gallon sump with 3 sections, 1 for asm g3, 1 for fuge and 1 for return pump. the 'fuge' section is probably 3.5 inches of sand and is 18 x 18. Since the tank is new and has no fish (just 2 killer fire shrimp), there isnt much organic buildup on the sand in the tank or the sump. The "fuge" has a few rocks in there also. I read about the buildup that happens when using chaeto over sand am wish to avoid that since i am a new salty and want to have as simple/clean of a system as possible.
Do you recommend i remove all of the sump sand? some of the sand? put chaeto into bb or over some sand and if so, how much?
180 new system with about 1-2 inches of sand in it.
60 gallon sump with 3 sections, 1 for asm g3, 1 for fuge and 1 for return pump. the 'fuge' section is probably 3.5 inches of sand and is 18 x 18. Since the tank is new and has no fish (just 2 killer fire shrimp), there isnt much organic buildup on the sand in the tank or the sump. The "fuge" has a few rocks in there also. I read about the buildup that happens when using chaeto over sand am wish to avoid that since i am a new salty and want to have as simple/clean of a system as possible.
Do you recommend i remove all of the sump sand? some of the sand? put chaeto into bb or over some sand and if so, how much?
huckphinn894
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I ordered the same thing and was so sad when I started seeing the clam shells being pushed to the surface of my DSB
jjmill1980
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I am in the process of setting up a 56 gallon with a sump. Sump space is at a premium and I would like to put a removable DSB in. However, I would only have a floor space of 5" x 12" for refugium/DSB. My thought is to put a removable container that houses the DSB then on top of that eggcrate (with stand offs so that there is flow over the DSB) that would hold my live rock rubble and chaeto.
My question is, is 5"x12" a large enough area to even see the benefits of a DSB? Is it a good idea to stack the live rock and chaeto on top of the DSB?
My question is, is 5"x12" a large enough area to even see the benefits of a DSB? Is it a good idea to stack the live rock and chaeto on top of the DSB?
C0rp
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There is a lot of good info in this thread, much of it due to shimeks research as well. As with any topic, you will have areas of debate. But to say this thread is fail is hardly correct.
Reading this thread will inform one that depth, particle size, sand critters, flow, and sand critter predation are very important topics. All of these points being a focus of dr shimeks research. That is all good info.
Reading this thread will inform one that depth, particle size, sand critters, flow, and sand critter predation are very important topics. All of these points being a focus of dr shimeks research. That is all good info.
Rosti
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FLOW???, has nothing to do with DSB, It only proves my point.
Sorry for being so direct, I hate to see people spend time and money only to see their DSB fail. I am so greatfull I haven't discovered this thread before seting up DSB.
cloak
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LOL. That sounds like your Q.
Paul B
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How many DSBs here are over 10 years old? which is about half of the lifespan of an average fish in a tank.
Dr. Shimeck entered this hobby the same year as I did and he does not have an old tank or an old DSB. (At least I don't think so but I could be wrong)
So to really learn about DSBs ask someone with an old one. But first you have to find someone.
OK find 3 people.
DSBs work great for a few years but the theory that keeps them working is extreamly flawed.
Just my opinion of course as I am not the God of DSBs.
I will wait for someone with an old one to give advice. :lol2:
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C0rp
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LOL....WOW. Forgive me, but let me be direct. You sir, are ignorant, and if you think a DSB will survive without proper flow you are destined for epic failure.
Raiu Kitsune
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Wow. Certainly this has made me reconsider my choice in using a DSB. I thought about using one solely for natural nitrate reduction, but the risks seem to outweigh the benefits I could just get by using live rock.
Now I am starting my first tank but have done several months of research. I am considering a 4"DSB but the leaching of PO4 over time is what is scaring me about the DSB and has me considering a SSB that I can vac on a regular basis. SSB will not give me a solid denitro area but is less likely to result in the large crash that has been reported with some DSB's. Although if monitored well and replaced before needed, a DSB definitly has its benefits.
This is my delemia(sp?). Whether to go DSB or SSB. Either way I WILL have sand!
This is my delemia(sp?). Whether to go DSB or SSB. Either way I WILL have sand!
route66
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Just went to the thread deep sand bed- Thank you that:lol2: was good reading.
DoctorMatt
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Sand over gravel?
Sand over gravel?
Hello. New to this forum and saltwater tank in general so got first hopefully not too rediculous question for people out there. Im changing over from freshwater tank to saltwater tank and still have the gravel from tank. I rinsed it real well and was thinking of throwing it back on the bottom of tank before adding on live sand. figured might give it a cool layered look at base of tank. Is this a bad idea? Really dont wanna start my saltwater tank off on the wrong foot. Thanks for info.
Sand over gravel?
Hello. New to this forum and saltwater tank in general so got first hopefully not too rediculous question for people out there. Im changing over from freshwater tank to saltwater tank and still have the gravel from tank. I rinsed it real well and was thinking of throwing it back on the bottom of tank before adding on live sand. figured might give it a cool layered look at base of tank. Is this a bad idea? Really dont wanna start my saltwater tank off on the wrong foot. Thanks for info.
