dino experiment
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sneeyatch
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Peroxide only burns up what's in the water column. That includes the free floating green algae as well as free floating dinos. That's why your glass should be cleaner and your water should be clearer (similar to carbon dosing or running carbon, ozone...). It will not kill any types of filamentous algae unless it's removed from the tank and the peroxide is used as a dip. I haven't done that myself.
After 6 days, you should have seen some type of recession in the dinos, but it depends on how bad you have it. It took me about a week and a half to 2 weeks as well as siphoning them out to get rid of them and they haven't returned. In fact, other than a single small patch of bryopsis, my rock and sand look super clean.
I would say give it about another week and see. If you haven't, start sucking them out into a filter sock and re-use the water. It should help.
After 6 days, you should have seen some type of recession in the dinos, but it depends on how bad you have it. It took me about a week and a half to 2 weeks as well as siphoning them out to get rid of them and they haven't returned. In fact, other than a single small patch of bryopsis, my rock and sand look super clean.
I would say give it about another week and see. If you haven't, start sucking them out into a filter sock and re-use the water. It should help.
t4zalews
65g Ritteri Tank
I've been adding the peroxide to my overflow so it just rushes down into the sump. Do you think if I dosed directly to the sump it would have a better impact, or would it still be doing the same thing? I'd prefer to not dose to my DT just so nothing gets burned by it.
After I cleaned up my sandbed yesterday I decided to dose another 5 mL to get the ORP back up. After I dosed, the ORP dropped, but then just rose back to normal, it didnt have an elevated level like when I dosed before. Any reason for this?
jkopp36
New member
Great input and thanks sneeyatch! I'm not giving up yet. I'll stick to your recommendations and we'll see how it goes. I'm probably a little light on dosage so I'll up it a little. I'm going to remeasure all my actual water volume tonight and adjust accordingly. I'm also only two days into lights off as I did not shut them down until you mentioned that a couple days ago after my question on it. I'll give that another day or two also although I have a lot of SPS and frags and don't want to push it.
One thing I forgot that has changed is that my skimmer does seem to be pulling more the past few days so my statement above about nothing really changing yet is incorrect. My bad!
Thanks again!
One thing I forgot that has changed is that my skimmer does seem to be pulling more the past few days so my statement above about nothing really changing yet is incorrect. My bad!
Thanks again!
sneeyatch
Active member
I really couldn't tell you about the ORP fluctuations since I don't monitor it. Maybe I should get a monitor, but I always end up spending my cash on frags or fish...
I didn't add it to my overflow since my skimmer is located at the drain area of my sump so I was paranoid it would skim out. I always added it directly to the display or right at the return pump's intake
I've read that you don't need to be spot-on concerning exact gallonage of your system - I didn't. I have a 150 gallon system with about 30 gallons in my sump. My measuring cup had a 20ml line, so that's what I used. Not very scientific on my part. I didn't compensate for rock or anything.
t4zalews
65g Ritteri Tank
Im just wondering because if I dose my overflow..it goes down into my sump and has to batte with my protein skimmer and my carbon reactor. Maybe I should slowly drip 5 mL from the syringe into a high flow area in the main tank.
No major difference yet in the tank, although my lights (halides) are being ran for 2 hours longer than before. I still notice a lot of snot algae and bubbles. Still very early so I wasnt expecting crazy results. I'm only going to dose once a day, I've been dosing twice the past couple days. Only reason why is because my carpet anemone shrunk up a lot after the second dose yesterday..wasnt sure if that was because of the dosing or the syphoning of the sandbed and reintroducing the water. Might have just been re-acclimating itself to any water change.
I will keep an eye on the anemone activity after dosing.
No major difference yet in the tank, although my lights (halides) are being ran for 2 hours longer than before. I still notice a lot of snot algae and bubbles. Still very early so I wasnt expecting crazy results. I'm only going to dose once a day, I've been dosing twice the past couple days. Only reason why is because my carpet anemone shrunk up a lot after the second dose yesterday..wasnt sure if that was because of the dosing or the syphoning of the sandbed and reintroducing the water. Might have just been re-acclimating itself to any water change.
I will keep an eye on the anemone activity after dosing.
jkopp36
New member
I think I may be finally seeing some positive results. The bubbles and snot were less today when I got home and I even had the lights come back on today. I dosed 40ml tonight which is only 5ml more than I was but I put 5ml directly into my frag tank (that's where the dinos are the worst actually) and the rest into the return section of my main sump so it basically went right to the DT via the returns. Before I was dosing the entire amount into my skimmer sump which makes the H2O2 have to do a bit of traveling before hitting problem areas. I think we're on the right track!
jkopp36
New member
I am dosing 1ml/g without taking into account live rock as of tonight. I started on the 11th of this month but I was only dosing 35ml on a 400g total system volume because of rock displacement and such. With sneeyatch's input I am dosing the full 40ml now. I dose in the evening which is about halfway through my lights on period of 8 hours. I did have the lights off the past two days but had them kick back on today. I have a lot of SPS and frags and didn't want to go too long without lights.
t4zalews
65g Ritteri Tank
I hear ya...I've had STN issues, but I recently brought my unstable alk to a stable 8. I blame that for the STN issues, not the peroxide. If anything, I noticed some dino's covering some SPS corals and I didnt pick it up quick enough. Let us know if you notice any changes in your SPS corals with burn spots. do u have any pictures of your tank?
mille239
Premium Member
When I went through this problem (and yes, it shall pass with time and diligence) I was dosing peroxide 1ml/gal roughly, at night after the lights went out. I did 3 days completely no lights to kick start the regime, (then went to 2 hours for 3 days, 3 hours for 3 days, and 4 hours for 3 days, before returning to normal photo period; (my normal photoperiod is 6 hours) I have a BTA, so I wanted to give him at least a couple hours to recharge after the initial 3 days off.
I also put filter floss in the first baffle of my bubble trap in the sump, washing it out every other day, cleaned my skimmer cup/neck every 3 days, cut back on feedings, and continued the peroxide (20 ml) every day for 2.5 weeks. I had no dinos at all after the 2 week period, but did an extra 3 days to be sure. I still dose the peroxide twice weekly (maybe unnecessary, but I think of it as a preventitive thing) but the dinos have been gone now for 4 months.
You are certainly on the right track, and know you will beat this.
I don't contribute my success to any one thing, but rather the combination of things and diligence. Keep up the good work, and keep us posted.
I also put filter floss in the first baffle of my bubble trap in the sump, washing it out every other day, cleaned my skimmer cup/neck every 3 days, cut back on feedings, and continued the peroxide (20 ml) every day for 2.5 weeks. I had no dinos at all after the 2 week period, but did an extra 3 days to be sure. I still dose the peroxide twice weekly (maybe unnecessary, but I think of it as a preventitive thing) but the dinos have been gone now for 4 months.
You are certainly on the right track, and know you will beat this.
I don't contribute my success to any one thing, but rather the combination of things and diligence. Keep up the good work, and keep us posted.
turbo21
New member
you will be fine going for 3 days without lights. many people have done it with sps in their tank and had no problems. i havent seen anyone successful in using peroxide and getting rid of the dinos without the 3-4 days of lights off. i hope you are the first
i would also try to dose in the morning to hit the dinos before the consume the lights and get half the day to spread
the other thing that really seemed to help for me was running filter socks and changing them daily. i have never seen a sock clog up so fast as when i had dinos and was dosing peroxide
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jkopp36
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Thanks for the input. It all makes a lot of sense. I may end up resetting and taking all this input provided here to redo the process. I do think things are finally starting to turn around though. One question on lights off - do I need to cover the front of my tank? It's an in-wall setup and the only side of the tank exposed to light is the front but the room is not real bright from sunlight and the tank is about 20 feet from the closest window.
Also, I stated above that I was dosing 1ml/g - that should have read 1ml/10g. Just wanted to make that clear.
turbo21
New member
i have seen people use garbage bags and toatlly shut out any light, i only ran with lights out and didnt use any sort of covering. either way, as long as the lights are out, you should be good.
i didnt want to post this earlier for fear of pointing someone in the wrong direction, but i actually dosed once in the morning and once at night. i took the risk and had no problems, but since most are just dosing once a day and having success i didnt feel the need to explain the double dosing
i have been dino free for a while, and every few days, i still drop a capful in my 125 just as a maintainence dose
i think the total coverage thing has come people not dosing peroxide.
i didnt want to post this earlier for fear of pointing someone in the wrong direction, but i actually dosed once in the morning and once at night. i took the risk and had no problems, but since most are just dosing once a day and having success i didnt feel the need to explain the double dosing
i have been dino free for a while, and every few days, i still drop a capful in my 125 just as a maintainence dose
i think the total coverage thing has come people not dosing peroxide.
