Wow. Mine started much the same way back in March. Perfect tank. Beautiful purple rocks lol. Baby was born in May. Spent a week at the hospital. And bam. Dino's. Did massive water changes and it's worse!!! I've stopped water changes. Run socks. But can't let go of my skimmer. Dino's still there. Tiny tiny bit better. Wired most of my turbo snail population died. Weird eh.
Dinoflagellates.
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Quiet_Ivy
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@bheron Wow, what an ordeal! I'm glad you're making headway finally. I think you are right about excessive cleanliness. I think it leads to low biodiversity, creating an environment where only extremophiles like cyano and dinos can survive. I hypothesize that the few of us with really intractable dinos (Hi DNA!) have something missing or wrong so far down the food chain it's difficult to remediate. Probably not a coincidence that neither of us has access to good real live rock or microfauna kits.
@Cyberdude Congrats on the new baby! Dinos are famous for killing snails. They are the organism responsible for 'red tides' and a lot of shellfish poisoning/killer diarrhea in the wild. I thought I had 'new tank algae' until all my snails died within a week. Stop doing water changes! Add a big bunch of pods if you can.
@Billy Shrimpy will regrow the antenna next moult. Weren't you going to add some hair algae rocks from your girlfriend's tank? Did that work? H2O2 did nothing for me either. I don't think it's worked for anyone in this thread. I've been eyeing my old books on freshwater kilifish too. *rolls eyes*
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@Cyberdude Congrats on the new baby! Dinos are famous for killing snails. They are the organism responsible for 'red tides' and a lot of shellfish poisoning/killer diarrhea in the wild. I thought I had 'new tank algae' until all my snails died within a week. Stop doing water changes! Add a big bunch of pods if you can.
@Billy Shrimpy will regrow the antenna next moult. Weren't you going to add some hair algae rocks from your girlfriend's tank? Did that work? H2O2 did nothing for me either. I don't think it's worked for anyone in this thread. I've been eyeing my old books on freshwater kilifish too. *rolls eyes*
ivy
Billybatz9
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I was going too, but all her hair algae died already. -_-
Billybatz9
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Once all dinosaur are gone. When would you assume is a safe time to do water change?
garygonzales
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im never doing one again..lol....who knows but all i know is the is a major outbreak of this stuff this year..in my area so ***,,,maybe water maybe air i dont know but ive never had this in the 12 years of my tank ...and now all of a sudden...twice now...not liking it...lol....
Billybatz9
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If I ever get rid of this and it comes back, I'm giving up. Hell no would I battle this again.
Billybatz9
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One thing I will mention about my gfs tank who battled dinos...
Yes, her tank had lots of hair algae, but also lots of copepods, and I am seeing a good amount of Flatworms also. Could Flatworms be a possible fighter of the dinos?
Yes, her tank had lots of hair algae, but also lots of copepods, and I am seeing a good amount of Flatworms also. Could Flatworms be a possible fighter of the dinos?
DNA
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This is like a fresh wind in our sails.
karimwassef
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After using the clean method, I stocked my tank and refugium with glass and peppermint shrimp... I also run an open flow - no socks or nets.
Result :
http://youtu.be/8IU-gGSYyB4
Plankton to the max.
Result :
http://youtu.be/8IU-gGSYyB4
Plankton to the max.
Billybatz9
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I'm about to throw a rock through my tank.
Wow!
Where did you get the plankton?
Billybatz9
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Does anyone have any microscope vids of copepods actually eating dinoflagellates? And do the copepods survive the meal? Or do they die like most inverts?
Adrnalnrsh
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Here's a pic of my Jedi mind trick starting to explode in growth
Was tincy when I had dinos.
Only negative so far since raising my nutrients is the explosion of bubble algae .
Was tincy when I had dinos.
Only negative so far since raising my nutrients is the explosion of bubble algae .
Quiet_Ivy
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No microscope yet, but I have dinos mostly on my glass, and it is *covered* with pods. I'd say 90% of the pods I see are on the dinos. They're definitely not dying off. Pods are listed as a major predator of dinos in a couple of papers; I can dig up the links if you like.
I have the clear-white Amphiscolops flatworms. They are on the dino patches, but I'm not totally sure whether they're eating dinos, or the pods. They have a strange foldy behaviour that looks predatory. Their population is steady at a 'couple'.
It would be seriously amusing if one of the plagues of the reef world turns out to eat dinos!
hth
Ivy
garygonzales
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lol i hear ya....i guess you have to find a balance.. im still working on that myself..lol....im in same boat as you...:uhoh3:
karimwassef
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I didn't get the plankton, I made it.
I have a large refugium with stacks of sand for denitrification and a chaeto jungle for phosphate uptake and pods to thrive in.
I bought about 10,000 pods from reefs2go. I also got 200 glass shrimp and 50 peppermints. The plankton is the byproduct of their feverish mating and the phyto I add.
I have a few other tricks like a nighttime surge that moves the refugium only (since its on a reverse cycle). That flushes the babies up into the DT.
This population exists in spite of still running my UV at night. This is because the dinos remain in the water column and float from the DT to the refugium. The slow flow back up to the DT kills some of the plankton, but most will stay in the DT. The dinos will stay in the column and be exposed repeatedly to UV.
I have a large refugium with stacks of sand for denitrification and a chaeto jungle for phosphate uptake and pods to thrive in.
I bought about 10,000 pods from reefs2go. I also got 200 glass shrimp and 50 peppermints. The plankton is the byproduct of their feverish mating and the phyto I add.
I have a few other tricks like a nighttime surge that moves the refugium only (since its on a reverse cycle). That flushes the babies up into the DT.
This population exists in spite of still running my UV at night. This is because the dinos remain in the water column and float from the DT to the refugium. The slow flow back up to the DT kills some of the plankton, but most will stay in the DT. The dinos will stay in the column and be exposed repeatedly to UV.
karimwassef
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DNA
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Julian Sprung talking about his close encounter with palytoxin.
https://youtu.be/sgolj7laZQY?t=844
I added a tang a few years back that reacted like his Copperband did.
At that time I blamed cyanide fish catching, but now there is another possibility.
https://youtu.be/sgolj7laZQY?t=844
I added a tang a few years back that reacted like his Copperband did.
At that time I blamed cyanide fish catching, but now there is another possibility.
Billybatz9
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I have green hair algae and would like to experiment on the use of it in my reef tank to outcome tell the dinos.
Questions:
1. What's the best way to put it in my tank and have it controlled? Or will it just start growing everywhere?
2. Could green hair algae kill corals?
3. How would you put it in your tank?
Questions:
1. What's the best way to put it in my tank and have it controlled? Or will it just start growing everywhere?
2. Could green hair algae kill corals?
3. How would you put it in your tank?
