Dinoflagellates.

Before I scrap the tank... I am thinking about doing one more thing...

Removing fish and dosing phyto and copepods.

If nothing eats the copepods, they will reproduce like crazy no? And eat all the dinos.

I feel like it's hard to get a good population of pods if you have fish like wrasses that eat them like no tomorrow

You could also put dry sand in. That will kick of a diatom bloom.

Are you in Canada? I can send you some potassium nitrate to raise nitrates. Perhaps we can go halfs on a bottle of Dino X. They've really raised the price on that stuff, it was $20 6 months ago.

Dosing nitrate's actually working for me. I can tell when NO3 hits about 0.2; the dinos start up on the glass, displacing the green algae. Raising potassium is a bit concerning but I've only had to dose to 2 or 3ppm nitrate to see the switch from dinos to green algae.

The rescue corals are hanging in there. Montis look awful, but that is probably half my terrible lights. Amazingly the snails, cowrie and conch are all fine. It's only been a week but I *really* hope this high nitrate trick will keep them alive.

Under the microscope Ostreopsis is becoming far more scarce, but the tiny near-bacterial sucker is present in all samples. I can't see anything but goo off my glass, still.

Here's the little suspicious guy. This is at 1000X. Doesn't look like a cell here, but it moves around so it's not debris.
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Suspicious microbe is suspicious. This is the outside of the above thing. Possibly a spore?

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Posting may be random this week, more house sitting.

ivy
 
You could also put dry sand in. That will kick of a diatom bloom.

Are you in Canada? I can send you some potassium nitrate to raise nitrates. Perhaps we can go halfs on a bottle of Dino X. They've really raised the price on that stuff, it was $20 6 months ago.
ivy

I am In US, Florida.... way far from you lol
 
I've used Dino X too, actually, Algae X but FM has basically said it's the same thing but rebranded. It worked, but there were some cons for me. A few sps frags died, those that lived lost color. I went through the highest dose too though. If I could do it again I'd culture and dose benthic copepods until I felt they needed phyto.
 
I vent through the trouble of measuring my tank and sump, calculated the real volume of water and dosed as per product manual. I had no loses or significant discoloration. Only on one of the corals I had some minimal discoloration, the rest not affected. The urchins on the other hand, did not die, but were quite a bit affected.
 
I actually got my zoas to open after being closed for 4 months day after I started dosing. They haven't closed since. All of my sps showed much better PE. Non of my love stock were affected. Lost my urchin but I suspect it wasn't the dinox. He hadn't had much to eat in 4 months. I think a diet of dinos killed him.
 
Billy, have you tried nitrates above 3 and pods and phyto yet? I strongly recommend that first? It took me a while to try myself, as I was a bit skeptical. I honestly couldn't believe how quick it worked. Also I remember you said you cut back on feedings.... Do the opposite. Feed more. Where are your nitrates at?
 
Billy, have you tried nitrates above 3 and pods and phyto yet? I strongly recommend that first? It took me a while to try myself, as I was a bit skeptical. I honestly couldn't believe how quick it worked. Also I remember you said you cut back on feedings.... Do the opposite. Feed more. Where are your nitrates at?

+ 1 on feed more. Pods came back. Watching the Dino's die. Fox face is finally eating green algae on rocks again

How much am I supposed to feed? Won't over feeding fuel dinos?
 
No. Dirty tank (nutrient rich) will support the whole food chain, especially the bottom. That will compete AND eat Dino's. Dino's thrive in "bottom of food chain depleted" systems

... Ha. I think that made sense...
 
Day 12 or 13 of h202 dosing. Very little to no dino growth so far during photo period, my rock and sand look amazing. I have a shipment of chaeto/pods arriving on Thursday. I'm wondering if I should make tonight or tomorrow night my last dose of h202 for a bit... its kind of scary stopping but I don't want it to affect the copepods. It's also been 3 weeks with no water change... should I do one soon?
 
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Day 12 or 13 of h202 dosing. Very litttle to no dino growth so far during photo period, my rock and sand look amazing. I have a shipment of chaeto/pods arriving on Thursday. I'm wondering if I should make tonight or tomorrow night my last dose of h202 for a bit... its kind of scary stopping but I don't want it to affect the copepods. It's also been 3 weeks with no water change... should I do one soon?


Not til you have to. I haven't done one in months. Too risky and I don't see the need. Not til my levels get too high anyways
 
Right now I dose the concentrated stuff. ( I think the dead stuff). When I started I found a fish store that cultured and sold the live stuff in the light green water. Not sure on brands, sorry
 
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