Dinoflagellates.

Didn't mean that. Lost fish and snails, but my harlequin survived. Also my maroon clowns have survived everything.
 
DNA said:
I was more thinking of a fast id from a decent picture.

The reefing community is oblivious to what dinos can do to reef tanks.
Reefers keep struggling and don't get it why their corals don't thrive.
Cyano and diatom problems are much more common than dino problems, but are they just that?

It does not take a big dino bloom to do havoc, a few patches here and there can make the SPS experience miserable.
We are not doing enough about it. It will take more than a hobbyist from Iceland to get the blue whale in the lagoon out of there.
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You're right of course, but it's so difficult to identify anything in a reef tank.. Brown gunk could be funny looking cyano, diatoms, dinos, chrysophytes, 'normal' brown macroalgae or an alien invasion. Or a combination of any of those. In fact it's probably more common to have 2 things than not.. Not to mention there's not a strong consensus on what actually works against the beggars.

Perhaps someone smart could make a simplified key? Does it kill your snails, go away at night, like light/flow etc etc

Ivy
Dinos Club never going to be as popular as Diners
 
tampasnooker,

interesting comment you made about the calcium. i have nearly the same issue....i can move my alk around with simple two part solution (soda ash) but calc will not move if i dose the same amount of calk...i have no SPS and only two LPS...good coraline algae growth though....wonder if there is a connection.??
 
DNA said:
Yet another bit of knowledge about this toxin is that it causes bone resorption, by breaking down bone and releasing the elements. Bones are mostly calcium and so are our corals.
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This could play a part in the low calcium readings and coral growth problems.
 
DNA said:
This could play a part in the low calcium readings and coral growth problems.
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Wow, this organism needs to knock it off already! Bad enough it can make several toxins AND glow in the dark.

(I've been sticking my hands in my tank..really got to stop doing that)

Ivy

Why is RC either not posting my sig, or posting 2 versions of it?
 
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To follow up with my squeaky clean rocks I vacuumed the sandbed thoroughly four days in a row, just to see if detritus plays any part in how dinos resettle on the sand.

In 24 hours they are back at the same density and coverage as the the day before.

The conclusion is that detritus has no effect.

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This is contradictory to the nutrients theory from oceanographers.
 
Figured I'd jump on this post. Have a bad case of it,

things I've tried:

Sucking out all of the sand and going BB ---- No effect dinos cover glass bottom same as if it were sand.

Currently trying blackout treatment ---- On day 2 dinos still there but not growing, will suck all of them out after 4 day blackout and see what happens.

Going to install a sump on Saturday with a new eshopps skimmer and attach a coralife UV sterilizer to the return line and see if it does any damage.

Will keep updated.
 
dustinkimpel:

We have a rich and diverse plankton theme going now.
Since some have reported dino blooms after decimating the plankton with algae killers it sounds logical.

I'm getting a bucket of filthy sandbed next week and 80 pounds of live rock when ever that will be available over here.
 
Hmm. I will probably go to that next, I'm also thinking about the H202 treatment but I have a cleaner shrimp that will probably have to be moved during it from what I've been reading. Anyone here have any luck with H202? There's a lot of people that swear its the miracle cure...
 
DNA said:
dustinkimpel:

We have a rich and diverse plankton theme going now.
Since some have reported dino blooms after decimating the plankton with algae killers it sounds logical.

I'm getting a bucket of filthy sandbed next week and 80 pounds of live rock when ever that will be available over here.
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I think the diverse plankton theme is the way to go. I've been battling dinos for over a year. I started a algae scrubber several months ago. The scrubber has been taking up all my nitrates and phosphates so two weeks ago I shut down my skimmer and started dosing phyto. since then my pod population has taken off and my dinos are almost gone. I'm done to a few strands on one rock in my 90 gallon tank.
 
DNA said:
To follow up with my squeaky clean rocks I vacuumed the sandbed thoroughly four days in a row, just to see if detritus plays any part in how dinos resettle on the sand.

In 24 hours they are back at the same density and coverage as the the day before.

The conclusion is that detritus has no effect.

---

This is contradictory to the nutrients theory from oceanographers.
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I'm really leaning towards 'bacterial imbalance' or some other ecological system level disturbance.
Taking a turkey baster to everything sure spreads cyano well!
ivy
 
DNA said:
I have already dosed H2O2 5 times, 30 milliliters each day to my 300 gallons.
The day after the first dose there were noticeably more dinos than the day before. (Approx 50% more).

The dinos have also changed their appearance from almost all dusty before to much more stringy now.
It seems to me like the conditions for the dinos are better than before the H2O2 so I'm only doing one more dose tomorrow.
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Ostreopsis eat peroxide for breakfast.
 
dustinkimpel said:
Figured I'd jump on this post. Have a bad case of it,

things I've tried:

Sucking out all of the sand and going BB ---- No effect dinos cover glass bottom same as if it were sand.

Currently trying blackout treatment ---- On day 2 dinos still there but not growing, will suck all of them out after 4 day blackout and see what happens.

Going to install a sump on Saturday with a new eshopps skimmer and attach a coralife UV sterilizer to the return line and see if it does any damage.

Will keep updated.
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I have dinos and have been bare bottom since the beginning.

Two things I've noticed.

Dinos's and Cyano (as reported) can have some sort of symbiosis

Grows all over my rocks, corals and sides as well as on cyano.
 
scheel78 said:
I think the diverse plankton theme is the way to go. I've been battling dinos for over a year. I started a algae scrubber several months ago. The scrubber has been taking up all my nitrates and phosphates so two weeks ago I shut down my skimmer and started dosing phyto. since then my pod population has taken off and my dinos are almost gone. I'm done to a few strands on one rock in my 90 gallon tank.
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What Phyto are you dosing?

I ordered the P&P package from algae barn, which should be here Thursday. I have a really small bio load in my 90 gallon. I have a Major Damsel and two Platinum Clowns. I have a Skimz monzter sm302 which I got to go on a larger tank when I upgrade and I think its just way to big for this tank and my bioload. It pulls a ton of gunk but it seems to impair my tanks balance. I never had dinos until I added it.
 
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