Dinoflagellates.

[dartier]

I believe they are imported from the water column. You can even buy products intended to help corals regain their symbiotic zooxanthellae (AlgaGen's product PhycoPure Zooxanthellae).

In the Anemone forum, one of the techniques they use for treating bleached anemones is to do a zooxanthellae transplant. Basically injecting a piece of a healthy pureed tentacle into a bleached specimen. It has shown promise for saving nem's that otherwise tend to perish.

Dennis

 

[Adrnalnrsh]

More Zoox are a side effect of nutrient rich water and is what causes corals to Brown out

 

[DNA]

Yesterday morning I started to add the content of my skimmer back to the tank after having sat there for a week.
I drained the wet part from the skimmer in 3 doses 3 hours apart to make sure it was not too much of a shock to the fish.
I can't say I like the smell of sulfur in the morning, but it didn't seem to have any effect on the fishes.

The skimmer was turned off and the water turned slightly less transparent with the 0.4gallon (1.5 litres) of skimate back in there.
I scraped the glass as well to add to the mix and added a bag of GAC to a high flow area.

Last night the dinos took off the sand bed for their nightly swim in the water column and today right after the lights come on they all returned so it looks identical to how it did yesterday.

If something happens in the next few days or not, you will be the first to know.

After two days it's the same.
Dinos don't care.

 

[mathman7728]

i had small dino outbreak along with cyano....what worked for me was 1)added for life (fish, pods, snails, crabs, phyo, etc) 2) drier skimmate 3)killed the cyano with chemiclean....i think you need to kill the cyano first.....

 

[Adrnalnrsh]

i had small dino outbreak along with cyano....what worked for me was 1)added for life (fish, pods, snails, crabs, phyo, etc) 2) drier skimmate 3)killed the cyano with chemiclean....i think you need to kill the cyano first.....

That's exactly what I did and I killed the cyanobacteria first with chemiclean

 

[Billybatz9]

i had small dino outbreak along with cyano....what worked for me was 1)added for life (fish, pods, snails, crabs, phyo, etc) 2) drier skimmate 3)killed the cyano with chemiclean....i think you need to kill the cyano first.....

What kind of pods

 

[Montireef]

I didn't have any cianobacteria but used some amoxiciline to combat toxic ostreopsis (on the first of the five outbreaks). It didn't harm ostreopsis at all but killed all bacteria and ostreopsis turned non-toxic on the four following outbreaks.
It seems there is a relationship between toxicity and bacteria.

 

[DNA]

.....but killed all bacteria and ostreopsis turned non-toxic....

How could you tell that no toxins were produced?
How could you tell that all bacteria was dead?

 

[cal_stir]

i had small dino outbreak along with cyano....what worked for me was 1)added for life (fish, pods, snails, crabs, phyo, etc) 2) drier skimmate 3)killed the cyano with chemiclean....i think you need to kill the cyano first.....

That's exactly what I did and I killed the cyanobacteria first with chemiclean

Pretty much what I did except I chemicleaned the cynao last.

 

[cal_stir]

What kind of pods

Amphipods, copepods and I added pods+ from reef cleaners

 

[Montireef]

How could you tell that no toxins were produced?
How could you tell that all bacteria was dead?

Because no snails or fish died on the 2nd to 5th outbreaks (before treatment with antibiotics.

It is a supposition, amoxiciline is very efficient killing bacteria, especially ciano. Erithromicin as well.

 

[Rickyrooz1]

DNA,
I am having a dino issue in my frag tank. I have two small fish (Banggai Cardinalfish and Tailspin Blenny) and a few snails. The tank is a 40 gallon breeder with a 30 gallon long sump/refugium with chaetomorpha algae. I feed the tank two or three times a week and the nitrates read 0.00 (clear) on the Salifert test kit and 0.04 on the Hanna Checker. The tank is barebottom and I use a 8 bulb TEK T5 fixture for lighting. I didn't have this problem until recently when the nitrates dropped. Do dino's appear when the phosphate level is higher than the nitrate level or is there no correlation? What causes the din's to appear and what is the method to correct the problem?

 

[Billybatz9]

Amphipods, copepods and I added pods+ from reef cleaners

What kind of copepods? Sorry I'm asking, but just wondering if this is the swimming or rock crawling ones

 

[Billybatz9]

I hate these damn dinos. My gfs tank has them now too. It was my fault. I put a coral in her tank from mine. Soo stupid.

If i were to restart a tank. How would I go about cleaning the rock? Do I dip in hydrogen peroxide, vinegar bath, leaving darkness for a month, etc...

And what to do with corals? I have maybe $200 in corals. How do I clean them?

 

[karimwassef]

If you infected her tank, I bet her system wasn't very mature either.
Dinos are in every system already at some level. The coral probably didn't help, but it was going to happen anyway.

 

[cal_stir]

What kind of copepods? Sorry I'm asking, but just wondering if this is the swimming or rock crawling ones

Benthic, bottom dwellers.

 

[DNA]

Do dino's appear when the phosphate level is higher than the nitrate level or is there no correlation? What causes the din's to appear and what is the method to correct the problem?

Dino infested tanks often get stuck at zero nitrates and phosphates.

Right now we are looking into plankton as a cure.
That mean we are adding to the bio diversity and lack there of goes the other way around.

 

[DNA]

Originally Posted by DNA View Post
Yesterday morning I started to add the content of my skimmer back to the tank after having sat there for a week.
I drained the wet part from the skimmer in 3 doses 3 hours apart to make sure it was not too much of a shock to the fish.
I can't say I like the smell of sulfur in the morning, but it didn't seem to have any effect on the fishes.

The skimmer was turned off and the water turned slightly less transparent with the 0.4gallon (1.5 litres) of skimate back in there.
I scraped the glass as well to add to the mix and added a bag of GAC to a high flow area.

Last night the dinos took off the sand bed for their nightly swim in the water column and today right after the lights come on they all returned so it looks identical to how it did yesterday.

If something happens in the next few days or not, you will be the first to know.

After two days it's the same.
Dinos don't care.

After three days it's the same.
Dinos don't care.

 

[Dfee]

Why do we think coralline recedes and turns white? Alk, mag, and ca all good. Dino's not necessarily on the parts that turn white

 

[Budman422]

I upped the amount of food in mine about 6 months ago and also started dripping kalk. My dinos are gone. The refugium started growing better it has calurpa and cheato. And the pod population exploded. I have had more coral growth in the last six months that was probably better than the previous 3 years. I believe my balance of the system was off and dinos will out compete everything. I have not had to stir the sand bed for over 5 months and I get just a little film algea on the glass.