Things look better this morning. After a 10ml dose all of my Lps and sps immediately shriveled up. About 30 min later they all showed fully extended polyps. Interesting. This morning before lights start to ramp up I dumped a healthy dose of reef roids. Coral seems happy. At least Dino x does not affect them negatively. In fact most of my Lps and gonipora that has been closed for over a month started to open. So far so good. Only running filter floss and skimmer.
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karimwassef
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One group believes that removing the toxins gives dinos more range to grow without being self limiting.
Another believes that removing the toxins helps their competitors gain hold.
It depends on where you are in the battle. If you've just knocked them back, then this might be the time to give their competitors a leg up. If they're gaining ground, it would be a bad time to give them more range.
Oops- just noticed you're asking about carbon dosing. My reply was about carbon filtration.
I think carbon dosing helps dinos thrive.
Another believes that removing the toxins helps their competitors gain hold.
It depends on where you are in the battle. If you've just knocked them back, then this might be the time to give their competitors a leg up. If they're gaining ground, it would be a bad time to give them more range.
Oops- just noticed you're asking about carbon dosing. My reply was about carbon filtration.
I think carbon dosing helps dinos thrive.
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Quiet_Ivy
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Joseph.Lucketta tested his Ostreopsis with dino x, hyposalinity and peroxide. (And I knew I was going to want that link
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=23947712&postcount=889
There's almost nothing on specific strains because 99% of us don't have a clue. (And actually Pants said there were 3 common types in aquaria, and he couldn't id the 3rd for sure.) Here's his videos:
https://www.youtube.com/user/YorickSanchez/feed
Quiet_Ivy
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Huge Update
Huge Update
Dirty method on a massive scale?
My bro-in-law's 16g shattered while they were away overnight! He's decided to get out of the hobby completely. (This is I believe his 3rd tank explosion. The first 2 were in a 300g. They had to redo most of the basement.)
So I just took home all his rock, corals and 2 fish. He glues all his frags down and I didn't want to try removing them, so I replaced almost all my rock with his.
I'm plugging my skimmer back in, added a ton of carbon. I expect a pretty bad ammonia spike just from the rock, there may be 6+ dead crabs in there, so I've preemptively added Prime and a new ammonia badge.
We'll see what this does to my dinos.
ivy
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Dirty method on a massive scale?
My bro-in-law's 16g shattered while they were away overnight! He's decided to get out of the hobby completely. (This is I believe his 3rd tank explosion. The first 2 were in a 300g. They had to redo most of the basement.)
So I just took home all his rock, corals and 2 fish. He glues all his frags down and I didn't want to try removing them, so I replaced almost all my rock with his.
I'm plugging my skimmer back in, added a ton of carbon. I expect a pretty bad ammonia spike just from the rock, there may be 6+ dead crabs in there, so I've preemptively added Prime and a new ammonia badge.
We'll see what this does to my dinos.
ivy
garygonzales
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i did have an outbreak when i added more carbon then i normally add..could be quince dent i dont know ..but not going to do that again.....
Quiet_Ivy
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I know, right? The 300g was a built-in-the-wall beautifully done tank. He had it built by a professional, but I wonder if it wasn't quite level, or his basement floor's not level.
Forgot to mention! I have green algae on my glass! I've been dosing nitrate to keep my tank at 3ppm for 3 days. This is literally the first time I've ever seen green algae in this tank. Nitrate was back to 0 this am, phosphate too. I'm sure it'll be ridiculous once bro in law's stuff starts re-cycling.
Yay!
ivy
I have a massive green algae bloom going on right now, 48 hours after lights out. There is still strings all over, attached to everything. I'll grab a pic in a few. I'm going in to pull some snot off my sps.
Going to start H2O2 dosing tonight. Will start at 1ml/10g
I spoke to one of the biology professors at western university. He is willing to stick a sample under a scope for me to help ID it, and possibly help run some experiments.
Going to start H2O2 dosing tonight. Will start at 1ml/10g
I spoke to one of the biology professors at western university. He is willing to stick a sample under a scope for me to help ID it, and possibly help run some experiments.
Billybatz9
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Instead of taking my tank down, I will perform 4 days lights out to see if that does anything. Maybe 5? Normally I would do 3, but this is my Last hope. If that doesn't work, I'll maybe buy Dino x to try (although it may be a waste of money).
Taking down a tank and restarting is such a pain.
Taking down a tank and restarting is such a pain.
Quiet_Ivy
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Before you do a lights out again, could you do a sort of summary on your tank? What are your nitrate/phosphate numbers like? Maybe we can come up with several inexpensive things to try along with the blackout. I know you have a squinty shrimp but do you still have that anemone? Corals, etc. Pictures of your tank?
@Lucidog- Looks terrible, great job!
Is that cyano?@cyberdude- wow, looks really good
Some of it probably is. Most of it is just run of the mill nasty green algae. I didn't look close, or for long. I just wanted to do what I needed to do, and cover it back up.
Pulling the cover tonight, and setting my lights to run 4 hours at 1/4 power, only blues, for Thursday. That will be 90 hours in the dark.
Pulling the cover tonight, and setting my lights to run 4 hours at 1/4 power, only blues, for Thursday. That will be 90 hours in the dark.
Billybatz9
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Before you do a lights out again, could you do a sort of summary on your tank? What are your nitrate/phosphate numbers like? Maybe we can come up with several inexpensive things to try along with the blackout. I know you have a squinty shrimp but do you still have that anemone? Corals, etc. Pictures of your tank?
@Lucidog- Looks terrible, great job!
@cyberdude- wow, looks really good
I don't have any test kits worth testing for. But I have 0 algae apart from dinos. Reduced feedings so phosphates should be low.
I have anemones, montis, frogspawn, hammer, torch, and zoas.
Two clown fish, bicolor blenny, six line wrasse, blood shrimp, ND pistol shrimp.
