Dinoflagellates.

[reefcentral123]

I read earlier in this thread that ostreopsis secretes palytoxin?? reading on pubmed and wiki about this compound makes me nervous. do you guys have any idea how much of the stuff the bacteria secretes? constantly coming into contact with nonselective Na/K ATPase inhibitors has to be terrible for ur health in the long term... or does the body realize its ion gradients are out of whack and it creates more pumps to fix this???

i'm going to aggressively try to get rid of these guys or at least get their population under control. if after a month none of the methods in this thread works i'm gonna hang up the towel, im not sitting with a toxin generator in my living room. :hmm2:

 

[taricha]

Maybe the best agent against bad dinos is good dinos?

Anybody see this one before?
http://oceandatacenter.ucsc.edu/MBHAB/hotspots/publications/mazzillo et al 2011.pdf

It's about a parasitic dino that infects other dinos and might be responsible for stopping dino blooms.

 

[DNA]

I read earlier in this thread that ostreopsis secretes palytoxin.

There is a very real danger. People have gotten very sick and every precaution sould be used. Do not boil, steam or heat anything. Make sure no tank water get's close to open wounds, mouth or eyes.

Rinse your hands with fresh water if they go into your tank unprotected and do not reuse a towel that has come in contact with the saltwater.

There are loads more of common sense thinks to have in mind.

 

[reefcentral123]

There is a very real danger. People have gotten very sick and every precaution sould be used. Do not boil, steam or heat anything. Make sure no tank water get's close to open wounds, mouth or eyes.

Rinse your hands with fresh water if they go into your tank unprotected and do not reuse a towel that has come in contact with the saltwater.

There are loads more of common sense thinks to have in mind.

yeah thanks for the heads up. i wasnt washing my hands up until now and I've been touching my face afterwards probably.

i've been having bouts of nausea this past week, corellating with me starting to get rid of these dinos. could be a coincidence but these things are definitely not safe.

 

[karimwassef]

Anybody see this one before?
http://oceandatacenter.ucsc.edu/MBHAB/hotspots/publications/mazzillo et al 2011.pdf

It's about a parasitic dino that infects other dinos and might be responsible for stopping dino blooms.

Whoaw!

I love making stuff up, throwing it into the dark of the net's global consciousness ... Only to have it come back with "yup! We got that already."

 

[DNA]

Anybody see this one before?
http://oceandatacenter.ucsc.edu/MBHAB/hotspots/publications/mazzillo et al 2011.pdf

It's about a parasitic dino that infects other dinos and might be responsible for stopping dino blooms.

Yes and remember that the the other blooms like diatoms and coccoliths are also suppressors through competition. In nature they seem to take turns so if you can get one going you could get some results.

 

[iced98lx]

Less cloudy today but still not crystal clear. LPS are back to normal. The few bits of cyano that were here are 100% gone so that's an interesting side effect. I suspect they'll return. Dinos are hard to find this noon so that's good. Couple spots on one rock is all,none on the sand bed. I'm done dosing bacteria (I used it all) and am going to start dosing phyto along with a full blackout until monday/tuesday of next week. Unsure if I should pull the 100 micron socks I had been running when dosing phyto or not.

 

[seamonster124]

Bottle of dino-x ordered. Let's see what this does.

Dino-x does exactly nothing. I dropped some dino x on them under a microscope and they liked it!

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[seamonster124]

Do Dino outbreaks only exist in tanks with coral?

No. If you have dinos, you just buy a leather coral and they all die instantly.

 

[seamonster124]

Well folk, dinos are back....

new finding: Mixing live phytoplankton with dino infested water does not hurt dinos at all. At least not immediately. (Microscope observation)

I purchased 32lbs of very live rock from CL to either increase biodiversity, or infect the new rock with dinos. Stupid stupid stupid dinos.

Have a good weekend

 

[Quiet_Ivy]

i've been having bouts of nausea this past week, corellating with me starting to get rid of these dinos. could be a coincidence but these things are definitely not safe.

Possibly a coincidence but I'd sure take precautions! My allergy/asthma specialist has added a section to his 'approved pets' sheet disallowing reef tanks due to palytoxin. Exposure definitely makes my asthma worse as shown by objective peak flow measurements on days I'm changing water or messing with the tank. I bought a bunch of simple dust masks and wear one when I'm going to be in the tank.

A month is a bit short for the dirty method, are you going to go clean? Definitely run a lot of carbon.

hth
Ivy

 

[Quiet_Ivy]

In case anyone else gets these, I'm fairly comfortable with thinking it's a Coolia.

One issue with photo IDs. You think you have a match, then find out it doesn't hang out in the sand and prefers arctic waters.

Are these the ones your previous post says do the 'ostreopsis whirl'?
I had a definite id on my 2ndary dinos until I noticed that the reference pic for the spp was at 1000X and my species was at 100X. Close..but not quite.

hth
ivy

 

[reefcentral123]

Possibly a coincidence but I'd sure take precautions! My allergy/asthma specialist has added a section to his 'approved pets' sheet disallowing reef tanks due to palytoxin. Exposure definitely makes my asthma worse as shown by objective peak flow measurements on days I'm changing water or messing with the tank. I bought a bunch of simple dust masks and wear one when I'm going to be in the tank.

A month is a bit short for the dirty method, are you going to go clean? Definitely run a lot of carbon.

hth
Ivy

hey thanks for the info. you think a month is too short? i'm willing to go longer as long as i don't notice any more problems.

 

[Billybatz9]

I've been doing live phytoplankton for 3 days now and see some pods on glass. Dino has not gotten better though.

 

[BigJohnny]

I've been doing live phytoplankton for 3 days now and see some pods on glass. Dino has not gotten better though.

What worked best for me was to dose Phytoplankton daily until I had an epic pod population, than stopped dosing the Phytoplankton so they'd eat the dinos instead. Took a while, 3 days won't cut it. I also cut my photoperiod to 5 hours and dosed Microbacter7 nightly to out compete. Be careful though, Microbacter7 will strip nutrients out of the water so use it slowly if you have a high nutrient tank, otherwise it may shock your corals.

 

[Billybatz9]

Dino-x does exactly nothing. I dropped some dino x on them under a microscope and they liked it!

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I had cancelled order.

 

[taricha]

Are these the ones your previous post says do the 'ostreopsis whirl'?
I had a definite id on my 2ndary dinos until I noticed that the reference pic for the spp was at 1000X and my species was at 100X. Close..but not quite.

hth
ivy

yep, their normal mode of movement is the whirl like what is usually described for ostreopsis.

 

[justthewife]

I really would like an answer for this question. Does dipping a coral and rock in a coral dip solution do anything to dino's?

 

[taricha]

I think people have dipped in some solution of hydrogen peroxide to kill dinos and microalgae directly.

Can't speak to how corals respond to the dip.

 

[justthewife]

I am asking for sharing of frags purposes. I certainly don't want to infect other tanks or introduce more dino's into my own tank. So does dipping corals in a coral dip like Seachem coral dip or lugols before putting them into the tank prevent or kill the dino's? Or does anyone do a fresh water dip before adding new corals to a QT or display?