DIY Wavebox! (With modded MJ)
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I have been following this thread with great interest. It is totally awesome what you have been able to accomplish so far. On your propeller casing mod have you ever considered modifying a Penductor? I know that they pretty much both do the same thing but I was thinking about water volume in and out. Just curious! Also could you give me an idea as to what thickness your acrylic is that you used? Also you might want to check out this site that CurrentSea has in regrads to timers.
http://www.currentsea.com/index.htm
There is another thread in Reef Central discussing this unit and its mods. Will try and track it down and send you the link!
http://www.currentsea.com/index.htm
There is another thread in Reef Central discussing this unit and its mods. Will try and track it down and send you the link!
RandyStacyE
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I wouldn't necesarilly want to 'try this at home', but here is a basic variable speed strobe light:
I'd try and find a controller of some sort too rather than try and solder one of these unless someone found a cheapo to hack very easily.
I'd try and find a controller of some sort too rather than try and solder one of these unless someone found a cheapo to hack very easily.
i did somthing like this using a magdrive and a 6 inch pvc tube on the intake i was more goofing aroudn then trying to build somthing but the effect was probobly similar ( i was plugging and unplugigng by hand so i didnt get a nice wave but it was still kinda cool .... till the impeller shattered )
i dont think a strobe will wrk because the strobe flash is always the same length . all you change is how often it flashes
i dont think a strobe will wrk because the strobe flash is always the same length . all you change is how often it flashes
douggiestyle
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that and i believe all you are changing is the rate that the capacitor charges.
this is more of turn off then turn on. would likely need a timer and relay, if doing the electronic way. otherwise you could use a plain timer as long as it has the right resolution.
Here is the thread that I was referring to before. Interesting read, might help!
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=464971&perpage=25&pagenumber=1
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=464971&perpage=25&pagenumber=1
awesome thread.. ive been waiting too learn exactly how the tunze waveboxes worked for some time...
this is what im thinking..
a resivoir just like yours uses.. you could drill the tank to make the box hang on externally like an overflow..
no internal pump-
bulkhead from resivoir.. to pump.. to OM 2-way.. (this idea is only legitimate if the 2ways timing can be adjusted...) then..
2way - 1 to tank, 1 back into the wavebox...
swell no swell(
get it?
this basic design has the danger of slowly reducing its resivoir over time or whatever.. the kinks could be worked out....
i just throught of and wrote this in a very rushed manner.. so please excuse me if this is completely wrong hahaha...
just throwin it out there - frank
this is what im thinking..
a resivoir just like yours uses.. you could drill the tank to make the box hang on externally like an overflow..
no internal pump-
bulkhead from resivoir.. to pump.. to OM 2-way.. (this idea is only legitimate if the 2ways timing can be adjusted...) then..
2way - 1 to tank, 1 back into the wavebox...
swell no swell(
get it?
this basic design has the danger of slowly reducing its resivoir over time or whatever.. the kinks could be worked out....
i just throught of and wrote this in a very rushed manner.. so please excuse me if this is completely wrong hahaha...
just throwin it out there - frank
RandyStacyE
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I like the external box idea and that would be ideal to say the least. It could be particularly interesting for the DIY plywood tank builders. Acrylic tank builders too of course 
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One Tunze pump/MJ mod should do the trick though.
. One Tunze pump/MJ mod should do the trick though.
smcnally
New member
That's pretty interesting. I was thinking the other day that if I moved, I would have my tank drilled and externally mount a nice large reservoir on the outside for a wavebox. I think an externally mounted box would work killer.
I thought about a penductor (or eductor), but they won't speed up the amount of water exiting the box. I think that to successfully get these waves, you need to focus more on the water displacement and not necessarily flow (GPH). I checked out both timers you referenced, and don't think they would work (at least in my tank). My tank has needed me to set the timer to 9/10 of a second on and 9/10 of a second off.
I agree!<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8906936#post8906936 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RandyStacyE
I like the external box idea and that would be ideal to say the least. It could be particularly interesting for the DIY plywood tank builders. Acrylic tank builders too of course
One Tunze pump/MJ mod should do the trick though.
I found the controller http://myreefcreations.com/tunze.htm
Wave Controller 6091
for Tunze Wave box extension 6212.50
$US 80.76
This unit will turn the Tunze wavebox extension into a fully operational wavebox.
So why not buy this controller and make the wave box use a mj mod are a tunze ??pump
Wave Controller 6091
for Tunze Wave box extension 6212.50
$US 80.76
This unit will turn the Tunze wavebox extension into a fully operational wavebox.
So why not buy this controller and make the wave box use a mj mod are a tunze ??pump
Beenalongtime79
New member
Simple enough question with a simple enough answer The Tunze wavebox uses a 6200 Tunze Stream sooooo, it is a DC pump which is much more easily controllable than AC pumps.
The Maxi Jet mod being an AC pump, it cannot use the controller designed for a DC pump.
Peace,
John
The Tunze wavebox uses a 6200 Tunze Stream sooooo, it is a DC pump which is much more easily controllable than AC pumps. The Maxi Jet mod being an AC pump, it cannot use the controller designed for a DC pump.
Peace,
John
sweetpea355
New member
Okay the MJ Modded wont work on that controler what about Seio 2600, They now have a controller that drops the pump to 50% and revs back up to a 100% so wouldn't that make them a dc pump?<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8919366#post8919366 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rufio173
Simple enough question with a simple enough answer
The Maxi Jet mod being an AC pump, it cannot use the controller designed for a DC pump.
Peace,
John
So close and yet so far.......I'm riding along on this one with with great interest.....
Watching your video with the clear box definitely shows how simple the design is.....the only holdup so far is the voltage. This is a $150 dollar idea, not a $500 one. I guess when you own the market on it, you can charge 3X too much.......
Have all the other DC motor pumps been checked out yet?
Watching your video with the clear box definitely shows how simple the design is.....the only holdup so far is the voltage. This is a $150 dollar idea, not a $500 one. I guess when you own the market on it, you can charge 3X too much.......
Have all the other DC motor pumps been checked out yet?
smcnally
New member
You can still build one with a Tunze pump and build your own variable controller for a couple hundred bucks cheaper than a Tunze wavebox. I think the key here is to make a better design to auto reverse a maximod instantly and quietly when it starts in reverse. I've been wondering if maybe a clutch style design would work, but I have no idea how to build one. I've also just started researching DC brushless motors, but haven't got very far in the search.
Wave Controller 6091
So why not buy this controller and make the wave box and use a tunze ??pump Still alot less money or is there something else need ! Also which tunze powerhead would be best ! If i did this ?
Not to go from the maxjet mod but just geting ideas with price in my head
So why not buy this controller and make the wave box and use a tunze ??pump Still alot less money or is there something else need ! Also which tunze powerhead would be best ! If i did this ?
Not to go from the maxjet mod but just geting ideas with price in my head
