Does this nem need treatment?

[Tango451]

Turns out phosphates were never bad as thought before either due to faulty test kit or testing it incorrectly. They are reading at ~.25 and even tested the old tank water the rocks I took out from the sump are sitting in. Going to dose vinegar either tonight or tomorrow night - just trying to read about it as much as I can and make sure I do it correctly before trying.

Anyway, I picked up this nem today and was wondering if it should be treated with cipro and if not, would you put it in display tonight or keep it in qt for a few days?

Here is a picture on the way home

 

[Tango451]

Making extra to now to mix in case needs treatment and or should be kept in qt and here is a picture of now after floating in sump for about 30 minutes

 

[Tango451]

Ro*

 

[Tango451]

And a better picture from just now

 

[D-Nak]

It's too hard to tell if it needs to be treated, since it could just be acclimating. I would leave it in a QT tank without meds for a couple of weeks. That way if need be you can easily treat it.

 

[Tango451]

So I'm presuming it would be a bad idea to put him in display from the start and pull out if needs treatment? (Figure he could make the other haddonis sick, right?)

 

[CoralsAddiction]

That does not look like a sick Haddoni to me. Is it sticky when you touch it and is it attaching in QT? If yes to both I would put in the main tank. Given proper conditions it should acclimate within the first week or so. If you think that your QT is capable of providing the right environment then sure no harm in keeping it there.

 

[Tango451]

That's the thing. I do not believe my qt (5 gallons of water would be used) can provide as good as an environment but I am willing to do water changes every night using coral pro salt by Red Sea as the salt. In qt all it would have is a powerhead, heater, and t5's (in other words my qt is the same as my ht - bare bottom, no filter, no rocks etc)

Posted the picture and asked the question because the last thing I would want to do is put a potentially sick anemone in my dt risk infecting my other two haddoni.and then the second the last thing I would want to do is take an otherwise healthy haddoni and possibly stress him out to the point he becomes ill/worse)

He is still in bag from lfs. Water is currently mixing for it if it does go in qt an not the display.

According to lfs it is sticky and ate; however I know it may not be true. They said it was there for two weeks and there was another haddoni (non green) who didn't look it's best but not horrible (80% inflated and mouth slightly drooping out)

I'm also worried that putting him in the qt over night and then move him if his mouth closes up in a day or two might be unnecessary stress)

 

[Tango451]

And just looked at him again here is a pic an how the mouth it makes me thinks he need treatment , but I do not have the experience of many on here and rather listen to what others who have more experience think rather then my own intuition

 

[Tango451]

And* is* sorry for the typos!

 

[Tango451]

Anyone else have any thoughts or updated thoughts as of the last picture? About to eat the qt tank up to correct temperature and then get the nem out of the bag (he's been in for ~4 hours) also his foot is attached to the bottom of the bag

 

[asudavew]

D-Nak gave you good advice. You should pay attention.:hmm5:

Sure not doing it any favors keeping it in the bag.

 

[Tango451]

I know and I trust D-nak. I also appreciate his and everyone's input very, very much. It's just that i like to get opinions and thoughts from as many people with experience as possible and then once I have that make the best possible decision I can make. The nem is in qt. saltwater finally finished mixing (just mixed it in the bin it's in). Always thought that a hallowed deep open mouth meant treatment was necessary.

I tried to take a picture but the t5 reflection made it hard to get - will get a better one later after it has more time in qt

Will keep updating pics

Thank you everyone again

 

[Tango451]

Update*** it's mesenterial filaments are showing now (I can see a few) mouth is not a hallowed as much but still open - does this mean cipro treatment is necessary or should I still leave it be?

 

[Tango451]

Light out
Update. Can't see the filaments anymore. Here is the best pic I could get

Salinity is at 1.024-1.025 and temp is set for 79 (was 80
When lights turned off)

 

[CoralsAddiction]

Is it firmly attached?

 

[asudavew]

Looks ok. Just let it be. haddonis are tougher than gigs

 

[D-Nak]

Looks ok. Just let it be. haddonis are tougher than gigs

+1. Many of the anemones that I have looked terrible when I brought them home. Some were almost completely inverted. Given time to settle in, most looked a lot better the next day. If they didn't, they ended up dying.

The reason for QTing is to keep the nem isolated and not introduce any potential pathogens to the DT. IME anemones can take a few weeks to show signs of sickness, and by that time they've already spread it to other nems. I know you have the red haddoni and I'd hate to hear that it had acclimated only to have it infected by a new addition.

You don't need to use new water for the QT. You can use DT water. As previously mentioned, the idea is to isolate the new nem, so using tank water is fine, just never add QT water to the DT. This is erring on the side of caution as I think it's rare to have pathogens move in the water, but note that anemones by mass are 75+% water.

 

[OrionN]

He seem OK to me also. I would just watch him for now. After moving they can look bad for a day or so. If he deflates then I would worry. IME stickiness does not mean a whole lot. I have Gigantea and Haddoni that are fallen apart and still very sticky. Obviously I like a sticky anemone but sticky does not mean they are not sick

 

[OrionN]

We often take pictures of our animals when they look good. Inorder to tell if or how servere a sick anemone is (from online pictures) we need to see them at both extreme. Worst and best. Often we need to determine are they worst or better from day to day