Dogface puffer 22 gallon

[Breadman03]

I don't know if it holds true on your side of the pond, but a 180 is a very common and relatively inexpensive tank in the US. The 6 foot (1.8m) length puts it as, in my opinion, the smallest of the big tanks. Most commonly available fish will be able to be kept successfully and glass thickness isn't going to be prohibitive for gear secured with magnets.

 

[FinnCole]

I don't know if it holds true on your side of the pond, but a 180 is a very common and relatively inexpensive tank in the US. The 6 foot (1.8m) length puts it as, in my opinion, the smallest of the big tanks. Most commonly available fish will be able to be kept successfully and glass thickness isn't going to be prohibitive for gear secured with magnets.

In the UK tanks are very expensive the 137 gallon costs 629 pounds

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[FinnCole]

I don't know if it holds true on your side of the pond, but a 180 is a very common and relatively inexpensive tank in the US. The 6 foot (1.8m) length puts it as, in my opinion, the smallest of the big tanks. Most commonly available fish will be able to be kept successfully and glass thickness isn't going to be prohibitive for gear secured with magnets.

On ebay (where I am getting the tank) the biggest tank I can find is 158 gallons

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[benjammin03]

To answer your original question, I would not put a puffer in a 22 regardless of size. A 1 inch puffer will grow very fast and I don't see why you would put the stress of moving him to 2 new tanks. If you are going to set up a 100+ gallon why not just wait till then. Not to mention a puffer that small will be much more sensitive to stress and any water issues that would be magnified in a 22 gallon. I say wait till you get the tank set up so your fish only has to deal with one move and then you can also get a bigger fish who will be more hardy.

 

[FinnCole]

To answer your original question, I would not put a puffer in a 22 regardless of size. A 1 inch puffer will grow very fast and I don't see why you would put the stress of moving him to 2 new tanks. If you are going to set up a 100+ gallon why not just wait till then. Not to mention a puffer that small will be much more sensitive to stress and any water issues that would be magnified in a 22 gallon. I say wait till you get the tank set up so your fish only has to deal with one move and then you can also get a bigger fish who will be more hardy.

Would a dogface work in a 137 gallon in your opinion ?


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[marleesan]

You have recieved an answer that you do not like so you keep asking the same question. Bottom line, you cannot put a dog face puffer in your tank. They get to 18 inches and should not be in a tank that small.

 

[Hadla]

To answer your original question, I would not put a puffer in a 22 regardless of size. A 1 inch puffer will grow very fast and I don't see why you would put the stress of moving him to 2 new tanks. If you are going to set up a 100+ gallon why not just wait till then. Not to mention a puffer that small will be much more sensitive to stress and any water issues that would be magnified in a 22 gallon. I say wait till you get the tank set up so your fish only has to deal with one move and then you can also get a bigger fish who will be more hardy.

+1! My porky is only in the 29 until I have my 75 set up and also cause I want her to get a little bigger before I introduce all three

I've waited over 10 years for a porcupine puffer and I still can't believe I have one!

 

[benjammin03]

Would a dogface work in a 137 gallon in your opinion ?


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In my amateur opinion, it would be big enough but you aren't going to have much room for many other fish. If this is your dream fish then go for it, but if you are looking to have a variety of fish you might want to look for something else (fish or tank).

 

[FinnCole]

You have recieved an answer that you do not like so you keep asking the same question. Bottom line, you cannot put a dog face puffer in your tank. They get to 18 inches and should not be in a tank that small.

Your answer isn't the only answer over people can have diffrent opinions and diffrent answers that's the point of a forum you ask a question and get multiple answers

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[FinnCole]

Also have you ever seen a 18 inch dogface sure a 18 inch Indian porcupine I would believe but a 18 inch dogface also I have been looking on some other threads that say 100 is fine your the only person I have seen who has said you need 180 gallons anyway I have seen tons of posts of people saying porcupine do
Fine in a 120 porcupine are about the same size as dogface and alot more active

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[FinnCole]

I would get a 180 if I could fine one by the way I have seen none for sale

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[FinnCole]

Also Oscars a similar size fish has a recommended tank size of 75

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[FinnCole]

Screenshot taken straight from live aquaria

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[FinnCole]

Also 45 cm is 18 inches I know they don't get that big are you thinking of star and stripes puffers cause that's around the size they get I have looked around a they apparently get 33 cm about 13 inches

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[FinnCole]

+1! My porky is only in the 29 until I have my 75 set up and also cause I want her to get a little bigger before I introduce all three

I've waited over 10 years for a porcupine puffer and I still can't believe I have one!

Can I see a picture of your porcupine?

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[FinnCole]

https://youtu.be/xOwfg-mPhZk this star and stripes puffer lived in a 125 for 8 years and is bigger than a dogface

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[MuShu]

Here's the thing. You can get a German Shepherd puppy and keep it in a 4-foot cage. At some point, that dog is going to outgrow that cage. You can keep getting a bigger cage until you reach the bare minimum, but you would still have a problem because you have a highly intelligent animal is a space that just barely meets it's requirements. It's going to get bored and destructive.

Puffers may be okay in a 137, but that would be just barely surviving, not thriving and living up to it's full potential. Puffers can be trained like a dog, and they need space to swim and maneuver, just like the German Shepherd.

And yes, people keep them in smaller tanks. People keep lots of fish in too-small tanks (don't even get me started on one in a facebook group who has a hippo tang and a yellow tang in a 29gal biocube with 2 clowns and 3 damsels). It doesn't make it right or fair to the fish.

 

[FinnCole]

Here's the thing. You can get a German Shepherd puppy and keep it in a 4-foot cage. At some point, that dog is going to outgrow that cage. You can keep getting a bigger cage until you reach the bare minimum, but you would still have a problem because you have a highly intelligent animal is a space that just barely meets it's requirements. It's going to get bored and destructive.

Puffers may be okay in a 137, but that would be just barely surviving, not thriving and living up to it's full potential. Puffers can be trained like a dog, and they need space to swim and maneuver, just like the German Shepherd.

And yes, people keep them in smaller tanks. People keep lots of fish in too-small tanks (don't even get me started on one in a facebook group who has a hippo tang and a yellow tang in a 29gal biocube with 2 clowns and 3 damsels). It doesn't make it right or fair to the fish.

Although I believe that a dogface could be happy in a 125 from the videos I have seen if dogface and porcupine in that size tank they seem to interact with there owners and seem happy since they are swimming around however that face book group with the hipp tang in a 29 is disguisting they probably saw finding nemo/dory and thought let's get a nemo and a dory I mean a pair of clowns is ok in 29 but a hippo tang is ridiculous I would say they need atleast 250 gallons a LFS near my grand parents had one In a giant display tank
That used to have a shark in it and it out grew it

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[Hadla]

And yes, people keep them in smaller tanks. People keep lots of fish in too-small tanks (don't even get me started on one in a facebook group who has a hippo tang and a yellow tang in a 29gal biocube with 2 clowns and 3 damsels). It doesn't make it right or fair to the fish.

What the effing eff?! I don't get people sometimes. :mad2:

 

[FinnCole]

What the effing eff?! I don't get people sometimes. :mad2:

Thanks for the picture he looks great

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