dolphin abuse

[Joshua1023]

I signed it, copied it and emailed it to everyone in my address page.

 

[Richard parry]

Once again i have to say that our food should be killed quickly and humanely. Still, i would not tear apart an intelligent dolphin community in any way whatsoever. I regard them too highly.

 

[Navyblue]

IMO, there is nothing wrong killing pigs, dolphins or dogs as food. If some animals are too intelligent to be considered food, how intelligent is intelligent enough? Where do we draw the line?

If the problem is killing animals as food. I can actually provide justifications for that. We eat carnivores/omnivores so that we stop them from killing other animals as food. We eat large herbivores because we can save a lot more smaller herbivores by eliminating their food competitors. For smaller herbivores, like rabbits, they tend to breed a lot which can cause food competition among themselves.

That said I agree that animals should be killed in a humane way, they should somehow punch a hole in the dolphins' brain once the dolphins are hauled to the boat, or something to that effect, before they start with the whole thing.

 

[Richard parry]

I agree with you that they are animals and we eat animals. I would not eat dolphin myself but, as long as the slaughter is humane, feel it is up to the individual to deside if they want to eat them or not. As i stated in my earlier post, it is the treatment of the animal and the way and length of its death which is utterly wrong. I think most of us are together on this one.

 

[brc0488]

yea but i actually wonder how much of the dolphin is edible...i mean us a country it least use every single part of the cow....but i cant see thier being much to eat on a dolphin

 

[wlagarde]

Re: dolphin abuse

removed by mhurley

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9225296#post9225296 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by acroacro
Look at this
warning shocking...

http://www.glumbert.com/media/dolphin

Please sign the petition
http://www.petitiononline.com/golfinho/

 

[Richard parry]

let's not pursue this one any further...mhurley

 

[wlagarde]

...that should be obvious - unfortunately, too many it is not. I won't elaborate as it is outside the scope of reef central...and as importantly will only develop into an argument.

Cheers!

 

[dc]

Let's not stray from this topic at hand. My opinion is that it is horrifying, no I won't watch the video, nor will I sign the petition either. Realizing everyone is not American on this board, I have to wonder what we would do if Japan or any other country signed a petition against things we do? I'm pretty sure we'd laugh in there face, and be as indignent as possible.

 

[The Reefer91]

"Yes it looks inhumane, and it is, but it’s their culture." quote - REMF

this is the problem. because they claim it's their culture, they are allowed to get away with it. does that mean people should be allowed to go out and kill something like eagles, i could just say that it's part of my culture.

sure certain eagles(if not most) are indangered species, but the same could be said for dolphins.

 

[markrxdi]

I signed, that is horrific

 

[clekchau]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9239013#post9239013 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Reefer91
"Yes it looks inhumane, and it is, but it’s their culture." quote - REMF

this is the problem. because they claim it's their culture, they are allowed to get away with it. does that mean people should be allowed to go out and kill something like eagles, i could just say that it's part of my culture.

sure certain eagles(if not most) are indangered species, but the same could be said for dolphins.

if they killed dolphins humanely, would you object? what would you say if india said we shouldn't be allowed to slaughter cattle because it's not part of their culture?

now slaughtering endangered species is an entirely different argument imho

 

[mhurley]

I've removed wlagarde's comment and suggest in the interest of keeping this thread open that we just forget he posted that comment and move on.

 

[sman_nh]

When was the last time you saw a cow save a human from a shark attack?

gulf of mexico, 2004:
http://www.eurocbc.org/dolphins_protect_father_son_from_sharks_19apr2004page1577.html

australia, 2002:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/animals/newsid_2146000/2146366.stm

egypt, 1996:
http://www.eurocbc.org/page157.html


or, for that matter, win a superbowl?
http://www.superbowl.com/history/recaps/game/sbviii

i mean, cows can barely swim.

 

[Richard parry]

I would just like to say that i think the earlier wlagarde comment was foolish and should not ruin what is a good debate. There are many important issues but we are dealing with this one right now. This is relevant to us as we are talking about ocean life.

 

[RichConley]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9233341#post9233341 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Genral72
Something you may not realiz is that PETA is actually against us here on reefcentral in that they beleive that we should not take these ish from the wild. Some PETA members even go so far as to say they are agians all domesticated animals including dogs and cats. In fact many have been charged with animal cruelty because they went out and put hundreds of dogs "out of their misery." In m opinion PETA is hypocritical and over the edge.

I am not against them killing these dolphins. However the way in which they did it is disgusting. I beleive that all animals should be humanely treated no matter what they are. Dolphins pigs chickens ect.

I found this video surprising as Japan is usually pretty far ahead enviromentally speaking.

Peta is a borderline terrorist organization. (They were about to be classified as one, because they financially support a couple of organizations that are terrorist organizations, adn then Bush got elected and dropped the proceedings)

That doesnt mean that they dont have some enlightening videos of slaughter houses.

 

[RichConley]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9233603#post9233603 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jbittner
I feel that there is a huge differnce between breeding an animal for consumption and cornering a wild animal and torturing it. This makes me think.

WHY?

If you want to go along those lines, then its okay to enslave people who were born into slavery, but not ok to make new people slaves? Its EXACTLY the same thing.


If we were to breed new people to use as organ donors, would that be ok? Would killing them for parts be ok? Because thats exactly the same thing as saying its ok to kill an animal that was bred for food, and not ok to kill a wild one.

 

[charlesjordanjr]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9239011#post9239011 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dc
Realizing everyone is not American on this board, I have to wonder what we would do if Japan or any other country signed a petition against things we do? I'm pretty sure we'd laugh in there face, and be as indignent as possible.

I disagree with you on this. I believe most people would be against inhumane treatment of animals, here or anywhere. I have been in a slaughter house used by a friend. They are very quick about the slaughter. If other slaughter houses use a more inhumane method, then they should be shut down or corrected.

-Chuck

 

[RichConley]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9238505#post9238505 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by brc0488
yea but i actually wonder how much of the dolphin is edible...i mean us a country it least use every single part of the cow....but i cant see thier being much to eat on a dolphin

Why wouldnt there be anything to eat on a dolphin? They're mammals. If a cow is entirely edible, so are they. They basically a cow with fins.

 

[RichConley]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9241026#post9241026 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by charlesjordanjr
I disagree with you on this. I believe most people would be against inhumane treatment of animals, here or anywhere. I have been in a slaughter house used by a friend. They are very quick about the slaughter. If other slaughter houses use a more inhumane method, then they should be shut down or corrected.

-Chuck

We eat cows. Buddhists consider that barbaric. If we told them to stop, they'd tell us to screw. They think eating anything meat is inhumane, and is murder.

I dont see a difference here.