drummereef's 180g in-wall build

Yes ... are good at times.

I put led's in my sump area, just last night. I put three there to be exact. One for the dedicated fuge, and two, on a dimmer, for just overall lighting.

Quick simple and easy. Nice overall light.
 
Yes ... are good at times.

I put led's in my sump area, just last night. I put three there to be exact. One for the dedicated fuge, and two, on a dimmer, for just overall lighting.

Quick simple and easy. Nice overall light.

Good to know others are having good luck with them. Thanks worm. :)


Drummer I was watching a bulk reef supply video and what do I see during the video? A familiar picture of a spotlessly clean sump and tank room...

http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/video...tv_Saltwater_Basics1_15_2013&utm_medium=email

check out minute 4:53 I am pretty sure your setup is coveted when companies start using your pictures

Yes indeed. I was a little shocked when I saw that the first time myself. My fish never let me know they were moonlighting as movie stars. :D
 
Here's the BRS video where my fish make their debut appearance. I better get a cut of the royalty check considering they eat better than me most nights. :)


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UPDATE:


So as requested here are the "before/after" pics of the tank without LEDs and with LEDs. It's subtle but you can definitely see the difference. With the LED bars ON the tank is noticeably brighter and the colors "pop" just slightly, especially reds and purples. With the LEDs OFF the tank looks somewhat "flat" to my eyes now. Let me know what you think. :)

The pictures were taken a few minutes apart and all editing is the exact same on both pictures. Here's the results...


LEDs OFF

FTSLEDOFF.jpg~original



LEDs ON

FTSLEDON.jpg~original
 
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Nice... You really see a POP.

Can you edit that other Chromis back into the picture?

No need to edit him in. He's infront of the acro at the top of the left island.

Brett,
I'm only seeing 3 chromis. I thought you had 9 of them in there?:hmm4:

There is definately more pop in the reds and blues. Is it just me or does it was out the yellow in your tang?

Krazie:jester:
 
Nice... You really see a POP.

Can you edit that other Chromis back into the picture?

Thanks worm. Haha, the Chromis was a little camera shy in the first pic. For the record, the editing was only color correction and sharpening to get them about as close to actual color as I could get it. :)

No need to edit him in. He's infront of the acro at the top of the left island.

Brett,
I'm only seeing 3 chromis. I thought you had 9 of them in there?:hmm4:

There is definately more pop in the reds and blues. Is it just me or does it was out the yellow in your tang?

Krazie:jester:

I think it's just how the Yellow Tang was swimming, she's as yellow as ever. :) Yes I had 9 Chromis but only 3 remain. For the record I also had a harem of Dispar Anthias that didn't make it either. Around the time I plumbed the refugium into the system I had a fairly significant Dino outbreak. I'm still dealing with that crap from time to time. But in any event it picked off my Anthias and Chromis one by one. They were all fat and happy and eating well. There's something with this particular strain of Dinos that seems to be extremely toxic. It's the same stuff that, a couple years ago, almost took out my Yellow Tang... Luckily she pulled through. It also attacked (again) a couple of my Acros but they seem to be recovering, albeit slowly. I've held off adding any more fish at the moment to allow the system to stabilize again. What's crazy is Salinity, Alk, Ca, Mag, NO3, PO4, Temp, etc are all stable and in check. AND every time I do a water change I have a small bloom. :headwally: Don't really know what else to do but just let the tank continue to mature. Sorry for the lengthy explanation... :D
 
Thanks worm. Haha, the Chromis was a little camera shy in the first pic. For the record, the editing was only color correction and sharpening to get them about as close to actual color as I could get it. :)



I think it's just how the Yellow Tang was swimming, she's as yellow as ever. :) Yes I had 9 Chromis but only 3 remain. For the record I also had a harem of Dispar Anthias that didn't make it either. Around the time I plumbed the refugium into the system I had a fairly significant Dino outbreak. I'm still dealing with that crap from time to time. But in any event it picked off my Anthias and Chromis one by one. They were all fat and happy and eating well. There's something with this particular strain of Dinos that seems to be extremely toxic. It's the same stuff that, a couple years ago, almost took out my Yellow Tang... Luckily she pulled through. It also attacked (again) a couple of my Acros but they seem to be recovering, albeit slowly. I've held off adding any more fish at the moment to allow the system to stabilize again. What's crazy is Salinity, Alk, Ca, Mag, NO3, PO4, Temp, etc are all stable and in check. AND every time I do a water change I have a small bloom. :headwally: Don't really know what else to do but just let the tank continue to mature. Sorry for the lengthy explanation... :D

Have you checked the Phosphate and Nitrates of the new water after you've mixed the salt in? People have been reporting Reef Crystals are giving them Phosphaty readings.
 
Thanks worm. Haha, the Chromis was a little camera shy in the first pic. For the record, the editing was only color correction and sharpening to get them about as close to actual color as I could get it. :)



I think it's just how the Yellow Tang was swimming, she's as yellow as ever. :) Yes I had 9 Chromis but only 3 remain. For the record I also had a harem of Dispar Anthias that didn't make it either. Around the time I plumbed the refugium into the system I had a fairly significant Dino outbreak. I'm still dealing with that crap from time to time. But in any event it picked off my Anthias and Chromis one by one. They were all fat and happy and eating well. There's something with this particular strain of Dinos that seems to be extremely toxic. It's the same stuff that, a couple years ago, almost took out my Yellow Tang... Luckily she pulled through. It also attacked (again) a couple of my Acros but they seem to be recovering, albeit slowly. I've held off adding any more fish at the moment to allow the system to stabilize again. What's crazy is Salinity, Alk, Ca, Mag, NO3, PO4, Temp, etc are all stable and in check. AND every time I do a water change I have a small bloom. :headwally: Don't really know what else to do but just let the tank continue to mature. Sorry for the lengthy explanation... :D

I prefer to call them descriptive not lengthy. :)

Are you still using Zeo to combat your Dinos or something else? I had a pretty good fight with Cyano recently and now that the GFO and new RO/DI seem to have that under control I am starting to see a bit of what I believe are Dinos. Thin film on some rocks that has long filiment threads streaming off of it and gets bubbles. It is photosynthetic (or at least comes and goes with my lights). I'm thinking a 3 day lights out is coming my way, but the last time I did one my Xenia flipped me the bird and almost didn't pull out of it.:headwally:

Krazie:jester:
 
Brett,

Glad you are having the same troubles....sort of....

I have another person that used the same marco rock as myself and around the same time you bought yours. I'm having almost the same identical problem.

Are you running GFO/carbon full time?

We have about the same amount of corals, and I have quite a bit more fish than you in my system. I show a bit of p04 but absolutely 0 nitrates no matter how much I feed or do anything I can't get my nitrates up at all. I'm starting to think I'm nitrate limited in some way and have been contemplating dosing KN03.

I get to fight bryopsis along the way though too which is always fun. I've been reading about the redfield ratio the last few days. You may want to check it out as well.

Starting to think I and maybe you are running our tanks a bit too clean and it's causing problems.
 
I did 5 days out for my Dino's and they came back a week later. Didn't do a large water Change because I hear that feeds them but think I'm going to do lights out against then a huge water change. Yes some Dino's are toxic to snails and coral especially. I've lost a bit of both and not sure where I'm getting Dino's from
Corey
 
Brett, the tank looks great!

btw, i hope brs asked permission before using you pics.

Thanks Dennis. I had submitted that pic for one of their recent contests so I assumed I had relinquished the rights to that one. If I knew they were going to include it again in the 2nd video I would have taken some better pics though. :D

Have you checked the Phosphate and Nitrates of the new water after you've mixed the salt in? People have been reporting Reef Crystals are giving them Phosphaty readings.

I haven't recently, but don't recall ever having an issue. I use IO but obviously it's made by the same company. I'll test again when I make up some more saltwater. Thanks for the reminder. :)

I prefer to call them descriptive not lengthy. :)

Are you still using Zeo to combat your Dinos or something else? I had a pretty good fight with Cyano recently and now that the GFO and new RO/DI seem to have that under control I am starting to see a bit of what I believe are Dinos. Thin film on some rocks that has long filiment threads streaming off of it and gets bubbles. It is photosynthetic (or at least comes and goes with my lights). I'm thinking a 3 day lights out is coming my way, but the last time I did one my Xenia flipped me the bird and almost didn't pull out of it.:headwally:

Krazie

Yeah, sounds like Dinos to me. :( I've been dosing ZeoZyme with some bacteria the last few days which does seem to keep it somewhat under control. I haven't dosed Coral Snow for a while now. It wasn't as effective on Dinos as it was that weird brown Cyano stuff I had a while back. I'm running GFO again so I'll keep everyone posted on if it's helping. :)

Brett,

Glad you are having the same troubles....sort of....

I have another person that used the same marco rock as myself and around the same time you bought yours. I'm having almost the same identical problem.

Are you running GFO/carbon full time?

We have about the same amount of corals, and I have quite a bit more fish than you in my system. I show a bit of p04 but absolutely 0 nitrates no matter how much I feed or do anything I can't get my nitrates up at all. I'm starting to think I'm nitrate limited in some way and have been contemplating dosing KN03.

I get to fight bryopsis along the way though too which is always fun. I've been reading about the redfield ratio the last few days. You may want to check it out as well.

Starting to think I and maybe you are running our tanks a bit too clean and it's causing problems.

I am back to running GFO full time and a small amount of ROX - 1 cup in a filter bag. Very interesting you have Bryopsis. I have a little that grows in my overflows, attaches mostly to the Dursos. I manually pull it out and have been pretty good about keeping my Mag up. I read about the Redfield Ratio a while back but kinda put it out of my mind when it came to actually sourcing KN03 and dosing it. Is there a reasonable place to buy KN03 and is it proven to be safe to dose? I basically have the EXACT same ratios as you, trace amounts of PO4 and undetectable NO3. Like you said, no matter how much I feed it doesn't change. CRAZY! :spin2: I thought about shutting the skimmer down for a bit to see what would happen but I'm afraid of reducing O2 and end up with pH issues. My Chaeto is growing slowly as well which leads me to believe there's basically nothing there to uptake. Let me know what you know about KN03, very interested. :reading:

Just chiming in to say the LED do make things pop a bit more! Also radiums for the MH's?

Thanks 110g! There's definitely a difference. It's subtle in the pics but when standing in front of the tank it's fairly dramatic when I turn them ON and OFF. Yes, running 3x 250 watt Radiums on the HQI setting. Have you moved forward with your LED project yet? :)


I did 5 days out for my Dino's and they came back a week later. Didn't do a large water Change because I hear that feeds them but think I'm going to do lights out against then a huge water change. Yes some Dino's are toxic to snails and coral especially. I've lost a bit of both and not sure where I'm getting Dino's from
Corey

Interesting, thanks for chiming in. :) Again, the same experience as I and others have reported. My tank seems to do really well when I go without water changes. But then I feel guilty and do a change and then I get a bloom... Haha. Did you start your tank with dry rock or cured live rock?
 
So to open a HUGE can of worms... What about adding some bioballs to the sump to raise NO3? Dare I say it!! :D But seriously, wouldn't this be a fairly effective way of raising NO3 without having to dose anything?
 
Hey, want to introduce myself and say this thread is AWESOME! I am still on page 127 and it has helped alot. I am in the process of getting back in the hobby after being gone for 12 or so years. I have big plans in my head and this is helping me put some things down on paper. I am curretly debating with my self to upgrade from a 75g to a 120. Still debating while I upgrade my components. Going DIY Leds to start but might pull my MH out for a frag tank, got my RO/DI and my Apex! Keep this thread going, it is worth reading from start to finish
 
So to open a HUGE can of worms... What about adding some bioballs to the sump to raise NO3? Dare I say it!! :D But seriously, wouldn't this be a fairly effective way of raising NO3 without having to dose anything?

I'm not sure that having those would "raise" your N03.... I believe it's only if they are disturbed AFTER established. I could be wrong though.

I'm waiting for a more accurate nitrate test kit to see what I'm really at. You only have like 5 fish or so while i probably have 20, and I'm feeding what seems to be quite a bit, and can't get them higher.
 
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