drummereef's 180g in-wall build

Omg from page 1 to 193 clean work and organized great DIY jobs and cable management lol i could never do that the best i try I cannt do it lol i take my hat your r the best...
 
I just burned 5 hours of my life reading through this thread.

AMAZING. I love it.

I think its hilarious everytime you show off your Sump that there is a new config. You get a Calc Reactor, well no more pellets or carbon, you buy chaeto, the reactors are tgone. Month later fuge is in. its all over the place.

You are my inspiration.
 
Hi Brett,

Just getting caught up on this thread and saw your July post about regrouping. I am convinced this is how the really awesome reefs we see filled with raging SPS and inhabitants got there. I refer to your thread, Pete's thread amoung others to verify my ideas. Wouldn't it be neat if someone like a JAWSEE showed up at my door and said, here, let me show you what i do exactly..... He has scrubbed a lot of rock!!! You may need a rock doctor :(

Thanks for all you contribute. One step backward, TWO steps forward....

And to all you Mentors who have "cracked this nut" and always succeed, may I request you to really share with us your methods, if not, good frustrated folks like DRUMMEREEF may leave the hobby and
that's not, "a good thing" ....
 
Please stop. Every time someone is talking about using quality live rock we have to hear about how your new tank will only have dry rock and live rock is evil. Let it go. And that video you posted... there is more wrong with that tank than just aiptasia. You have no clue where the rock came from, what his husbandry is like, how he introduces new things into the tank, and the guy can't even change the battery in his smoke alarm for pete's sake. :facepalm:


Meanwhile.... i agree with the others... Brett, we need an update!!! :thumbsup:

ZOMG! I actually caught the fire alarm beep too. That is farking classic :)

Side note I would take all of that rock in the video's tank. Aptasia can be cured and isn't the devil.

I'll join in, BRETT!
 
Hello everyone! :wave: Sorry I've been away for a while... I appreciate all that have hung on thus far and all the kind words!! :)

As far as an update goes, the tank is still running but it's been basically in maintenance mode for the last couple months. I lost a few corals due to the ongoing Dino issue, but it's all part of the hobby I guess. Fish are all doing well. I'm still debating on how I'm going to address the major issues, which are the never ending Dinos and Aiptasia problem that seemed to come out of nowhere the last few months (discussed on another page).

As I see it my 2 options are:

1. Remove the Marco Rock and replace it with new live rock. Albeit an expensive option, it would give me an opportunity to have a fresh start. Fish would probably be ticked off from all the disruption but I don't know how else to do it without the switcheroo becoming a major production.

2. Remove the Marco Rock and give it a couple Muriatic Acid baths, then re-cure it. Still would be a lot of work and would take time to get to the point of being able to add it back to the tank. Fish would be equally as p****d. LOL

I'm leaning towards removing the rock and replacing it with something else, just for the sake of time and the least amount of stress to the fish. But that option isn't cheap... :p I don't mean to keep pushing the debate along but it's a big decision and a lot of work to do either options, so I just want to be sure I do it right. As always, your advice is always welcome!


I've also been in the process of updating the index of all the tank projects. So keep posted for that update soon! ;)
 
Brett,

Still same boat as you, although I think I've made my decision to replace the rock for the simple fact of "what if I muriatic acid my rock, to have them continue to leach "xxxxx"?"

I've never come close to having this problem with other tanks, and this is the first tank I've done with marco. I don't have a special connection with my fish so I'll just be taking them to my LFS and he'll just replace them when the time comes.

Still trying to figure out what to do with the rest of the corals though.
 
What if you were to buy some more Marco rock and acid wash then cure it and then cycle it in a separate container before swapping it out for the current rock?

Then you could acid wash and cure the old rock and sell it to recover some of the cost?

Just a thought.
 
What if you were to buy some more Marco rock and acid wash then cure it and then cycle it in a separate container before swapping it out for the current rock?

Then you could acid wash and cure the old rock and sell it to recover some of the cost?

Just a thought.

I think that would require giving marco rocks more money.... I'd rather take a needle to the eye at this point :P
 
Hi Brett

Good to hear from you. I would definitely go with all new live rock. Yes it is expensive but you have already invested thousands of dollars and time into your tank. Why take the risk again? You know live rock will work. I vote for Tampa Bay rock like Dennis.

Looking forward to more updates!
 
Ok what about brs dry rock? I've read good things about it and most people seam pleased with it.

I got Dry Rock from brs and a few others before. COOK COOK COOK it... get the phosphates out first!!

I had SO MUCH Green Hair Algae that I was ready to to scream.. Then I got a Sea Hare... Blamm.. gone...

Proper setup with proper cycle helps, I did it all correct, just the phosphates took it to another level.
 
Try Reef Rocks....read their reviews most if not all are very positive experiences. Steve is tremendous to work with.

After establishing my 180-gl sps tank with BRS rock and having to fight GHA for over 6-months, I switch to Reef Rocks for my 60-gl lps cube and all was good.

Steve claims to pull his rock from better locations, as well and washes all his rock. Either way, it is a good idea to cook and/or cure your rock for 3-4 months prior to use.

I have used live Fiji rock in the past and IMHO would not want to import pest that live in the rock. I would want cure my own rock.

HTH
 
This is truly amazing. The build is outstanding and you're very detailed with the build. This thread actually makes me rethink my first build and really think this through a little more.

There was a lot of information to cover but a much needed read for beginners. Thanks,
 
Sorry to hear about your trouble with the rock. I had a similar issue with rock in my tank, although it wasn't from Marco, instead a LFS. After fighting and losing to it for the last few years, I've decided to get rid of it, along with my entire setup and start over.

I've now got 300 lbs of Marco Rock that arrived last week and is sitting in my garage waiting for me to unpack and start cleaning it and after reading the last few pages of your thread I'm feeling like I need a dramamine to get rid of the nausea that's starting to creep up on me.

Add this to me having just read d2mini's threads for his two tanks where he got exceptional results using Tampa Bay Saltwater's live rock and I'm really second guessing my decision.

Do you think it was just the batches from that time period that have issues, or do you think it's across all time periods?

Thanks.
 
Brett, LiveAquaria has their Premium Select Fiji live rock (45lb/boxes) on sale for $79.99. Add shipping of $1.50/lb and the rock costs only $3.25/lb. I just got 180 pounds and the rock is fresh with great coraline algae, no pests and smells fresh:) It is rock that is flown in directly from Fiji...super affordable and the real deal my friend. I wouldn't hesitate to order based on my 180lbs. I can show you pictures if you want them.
 
Sorry to hear about your trouble with the rock. I had a similar issue with rock in my tank, although it wasn't from Marco, instead a LFS. After fighting and losing to it for the last few years, I've decided to get rid of it, along with my entire setup and start over.

I've now got 300 lbs of Marco Rock that arrived last week and is sitting in my garage waiting for me to unpack and start cleaning it and after reading the last few pages of your thread I'm feeling like I need a dramamine to get rid of the nausea that's starting to creep up on me.

Add this to me having just read d2mini's threads for his two tanks where he got exceptional results using Tampa Bay Saltwater's live rock and I'm really second guessing my decision.

Do you think it was just the batches from that time period that have issues, or do you think it's across all time periods?

Thanks.


I don't think it matters as much if it's marco although I'll never touch the stuff again. It's a matter of acid and bleaching all the rock. I'd cook that rock for 90 days minimum and test the water weekly to see if it's leaching anything.


Brett,

I just went to my local D&B and bought a stock tank and have Tukani live rock cooking away from SDC. It looks promising but I'll have a better idea in another 6 weeks or so.
 
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