Fallow

[Tanthaitrung]

Dear all,

My DT passed 20 days of fallow. My questions are:

- 74 days are enough?

- Does fallow kill all parasite, bacteria, fluke ... etc?

- Is fallow better than hyposalinity?

Thanks in advance

 

[Mishri]

-74 might not be enough. that is why 90 is recommended.

-No, there are several things that can live through a fishless environment that will re-infect your fish. Properly Identifying disease/parasites is important.

- Yes hyposalinity will kill beneficial creatures in your aquarium if you have any, you must properly maintain hyposalinity, and hyposalinity wont kill off many other things that fallow periods will.

 

[Tanthaitrung]

Thanks so much Mishri :thumbsup:

But someone here recommended 6 weeks only!? Please tell me why

 

[Breakthecycle2]

Ive done it 80, 90 100 and yet still after QT'ing everything, I still get ICH.

 

[Tanthaitrung]

Ive done it 80, 90 100 and yet still after QT'ing everything, I still get ICH.

You mean fallow is not useful?

 

[AK707]

Ive done it 80, 90 100 and yet still after QT'ing everything, I still get ICH.

are you doing ttm or copper?

 

[Breakthecycle2]

You mean fallow is not useful?

No, im not saying that. Im saying the actual length for Marine ICH is truly not known.

 

[Breakthecycle2]

are you doing ttm or copper?

I always use copper in QT.

 

[Tanthaitrung]

No, im not saying that. Im saying the actual length for Marine ICH is truly not known.

Thanks so much. Have you used Seachem Paraguard?

 

[Triggerfish]

Ive done it 80, 90 100 and yet still after QT'ing everything, I still get ICH.

do you quarantine everything you put in tank including inverts?
if so, how long would you quarantine corals and inverts for?

 

[Breakthecycle2]

Thanks so much. Have you used Seachem Paraguard?

I have not. Why?

 

[Breakthecycle2]

do you quarantine everything you put in tank including inverts?
if so, how long would you quarantine corals and inverts for?

I usually do 90 days.

 

[Triggerfish]

I usually do 90 days.

damn.. any issues you can possibly see with your quarantining methods? or possible cross contamination? all it would take is a wet net ,hand. anything.

 

[Breakthecycle2]

damn.. any issues you can possibly see with your quarantining methods? or possible cross contamination? all it would take is a wet net ,hand. anything.

It's possible, but doubtful. I have separate equipment for each tank. Let's face it, the last marine ICH study on "hatching" times was in 1997. I can guarantee the "newer" strains have a longer "hatching" time.

 

[Triggerfish]

yes and then there's this.
A more recent study demonstrated that two life stages of one strain of Cryptocaryon (trophonts, i.e., the feeding stage during which the parasite can be found on the fish, and tomonts) survived dormant for 4–5 months at 12°C (53.6°F), and, after the water temperature increased to 27°C (80.6°F), developed and infected fish (Dan et al. 2009).

 

[Tanthaitrung]

I have not. Why?

Saw many good reviews about this product and would like to have a try

 

[SBV]

yes and then there's this.
A more recent study demonstrated that two life stages of one strain of Cryptocaryon (trophonts, i.e., the feeding stage during which the parasite can be found on the fish, and tomonts) survived dormant for 4"“5 months at 12°C (53.6°F), and, after the water temperature increased to 27°C (80.6°F), developed and infected fish (Dan et al. 2009).

Wow. Just wow.

 

[ThRoewer]

yes and then there's this.
A more recent study demonstrated that two life stages of one strain of Cryptocaryon (trophonts, i.e., the feeding stage during which the parasite can be found on the fish, and tomonts) survived dormant for 4"“5 months at 12°C (53.6°F), and, after the water temperature increased to 27°C (80.6°F), developed and infected fish (Dan et al. 2009).

It's known for a while that temperatures below 19°C (16°C?) will send Cryptocaryon into a state of hibernation in which it may stay viable for at least 6 months, likely longer. When the temperature goes up again, it will continue with its lifecycle. This applies to the "on fish" stage as well as to the cyst.