Favia Placement

grant778

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So I just ordered a neon favia online, it hasn't arrived yet, but tomorrow I will be getting things ready for it and I have a few questions about its growth/placement. I have a 29 gallon sumpless tank, I most of the rock work is on the left 2/3 of the tank, and then there is an open space, and then I have another fair sized rock on the other side of tank. There is currently a mushroom on that rock that I was going to move, and I was going to dedicate this rock to the favia, assuming it needs a rock to grow on. However, I got to thinking, does it grow onto itself a fair amount?, if so, I was just gonna put it on a small rock and put it in the middle of the open area rather than on the rock on the far side of the tank.
 
I've read that their sweeper tentacles are about 2 inches long. Do Favias need to be placed on a rock, or can they be placed on the sandbed?
 
Favias can sit on sand.

Watch those sweepers! In my experience their length can vary. I've had 1.5" square favias produce 4" sweepers. Yes, more than twice the length of the frag. Amazing.
 
Wow. Good to know. Is it all right to put favias by other favias, like you can with Euphyllias?
 
In my experience, they will whoop on whatever is near by, so no, not like Euphyllia.

Some generalizations about favia aggression from what I've observed. They don't all behave the exactly the same. A typical healthy favia of more than a handful of polyps in size can produce sweepers nightly but not always. The length of sweepers tends to vary some. Typically they'll extend say 2/3 of their max length but sometimes they get crazy long. Sweepers seem involved in both food capture and defense.

Sweepers are current dependent, or like grass bending with the wind, go with the flow. They will sting other things they touch. A random tag once and a while can generally be tolerated by most victims, but when it's night after night, you'll often see polyp retraction on the victim where the sweepers touched, followed by loss of color and eventually tissue necrosis. Sweepers do seem to have a tendency to eventually attach to something they are tagging frequently, and that can accelerate tissue loss in that area. It seems the favia notices it's hitting something, and it appears more sweepers are lengthened or recruited then.

I don't notice as much aggression from small (less than 1") favia and I have a several of that size within a couple inches of each other. It may be they require some size before they can be very aggressive. Checking them for sweeper length is part of my morning routine. More than once (shame on me) I have been lulled into a sense of security with a particular favia "I haven't seen any long sweepers from it in ages", only to move something closer and have it be tagged.
 
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When is the best time to see sweepers, and should I except them on my new 1 head frag? I ended up putting it low on the rock on the far side of my tank so there is 5 or so inches, maybe 6 of space for sweepers.
 
"They mostly come out at night. Mostly"

A couple hours after dark up til about an hour before dawn or so is prime sweeper time. While I would certainly keep an eye on your new frag, I wouldn't be too concerned with super long sweepers yet.

Feed it and watch it grow.
 
I was gonna feed it table shrimp chopped really small, is that ok? And also, it doesn't appear to be extending any feeding tentacles that I have seen yet, should I wait till they extend before I attempt to feed?
 
def can be kept on the sand bed ......and some do tend to have long tentacles like my ppe event horizon man they might be 2 inches long . so give them some space also
 
mine put out tentacles kind of randomly, it would gran anything as small as rotifer and as large as Mysis. On mine the sweepers were about 1-1.5" long. Neon green centers with purple ridges.
 
Mine is the same coloration. I may have seen one sweeper tonight when I checked, but I'm not sure. There was this little sand sized white ball floating around near the center, I didn't see the stem part of the tentacle so I'm not sure if it was sand or a tentacle. I don't think it was sand though because it stayed right around the center of the polyp the entire time I was watching.
 
"They mostly come out at night. Mostly"

A couple hours after dark up til about an hour before dawn or so is prime sweeper time. While I would certainly keep an eye on your new frag, I wouldn't be too concerned with super long sweepers yet.

Feed it and watch it grow.

Great aliens reference "Newt" :lolspin:
 
Glad someone got that! :)

When a favia gets serious about extending its sweepers, you won't have to look hard to see them. While they tend to be fairly clear, they show up pretty well in a flashlight beam.

Table shrimp can work, as long as it's raw and has had nothing added. Chopped mysis are a good food choice. I used to peel large Mysis and then chop them. I've also used small pellets and other chopped meaty foods (shrimps, clams, mussels, etc.). They can be quite gluttonous. In my opinion, a small piece or two per polyp is plenty. Keep in mind also that there is only one way into (and out of) the polyp - through the mouth. The polyp will often expel any indigestible bits after a while (shrimp carapace, etc.).

I have heard that chronic overfeeding can cause food to rot in the polyp's gut sack. That would be bad.

The other issue I've run into feeding favia (and lps in general) are shrimp, crabs and snails stealing the food from the grasp of the polyp before the polyp can swallow it. I've also seen shrimp put their claws into the mouth of polyps and pull freshly ingested food back out. Grrrrr. As beautiful as they are, and as much as I love fire and cleaner shrimps and believe they can be a part of a balanced reef population, at the moment there are none in my tank.
 
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So should I wait around a bit after its done eating to remove the stuff it expels from the tank?, or will my CUC just take care of it.
 
CUC should handle it. Depending on the food there's not usually much. Just don't be surprised if something odd looking comes back out of the polyp after feeding.

I've also seen polyps ingest something, and then expel it within minutes. I took that as a sign that the food was unsuitable for them.
 
One more thing. Where can one get whole mysis shrimp? I feed my fish the frozen variety, but I'm not sure where I can purchase whole mysis. And also if I were to feed the polyp a whole piece of shrimp at a time (when I say whole I mean the entire amount but chopped), how often a week should I feed?
 
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