Filter socks good or bad?

[redox]

acblinky I change mine within 48hrs as well . I use 100micron as well and that alone will require you to change it often. In my case if i neglect it I could wake up to 200 plus gallons spilled out on the floor. Let me exsplain. The present setup I have going on will discharge return water on the floor if the sock is not fresh. It will only dump the sump to about 2" deep of water(due to the lowest . return bulkhead) . Its the worst thing to find in the morning . Its happened so many times I have finnally learned to change them and do it offten. I clean them outside before i put them in the washer. I have extra so I dont have to go without. When I get low I will wash the used ones. I let the used ones semidry fist then turn them inside out for a high pressure rinse outside (try to get rid of most of the dirt) then A shot of bleach in the washer and on long cycle. After the wash let them dry thouroughly. When dry they should have zero bleach smell(bleach evaporates ) and I reuse the heck out of them. Too much kalkdrip with not enough calcium uptake will fowell them out

 

[redox]

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[sherm71tank]

Nice scribble!

 

[BeanAnimal]

redox... .I gotta say, I would certainly develop a more failsafe system. What happens if you get stuck out of town or a day or something. I would not be able to sleep at night knowing that I was always on the verge of having a huge flood and dead livestock.

 

[Lifes A Beach]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10752877#post10752877 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ACBlinky
The 30g is sumpless and skimmerless, a lightly stocked and more 'natural' little tank. The 90g has much higher flow, heavier stocking levels and a 30g sump/fuge.

Thanks, ACBlinky, for the explanation and clarification!

 

[redox]

well Bean it does keep me on my toes I must say The fish in the sump dont die when the water is only 2'" unless they are in the wrong place at the wrong time. I just make sure to change them out religiously or else Beside the sps and all others love those unscheduled 200 gal water changes it bightens their day just have to keep my makup water tanks filled with proper salinity

 

[chrismhaase]

Redox- you are more dedicated than most. I to change mine every 48 hours normally, but I have the ability for the socks to overflow into a sump instead of the floor when they get dirty. If they get to full, the water just pours out of the top of the sock and then into the sump. Please see picture. For your safety could you change your system a little. This might save your sanity, the floors of your home and the change of killing anything?!?!?

PS I am not accusing or telling you what to do just asking a humble questions.

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[redox]

sock dump out

sock dump out

well these guys are ready for changin. Its the sock onthe right that dumps out the water . it dumps it on the floor in my gh(floor drains) no property damage

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[JetCat USA]

so a six inch piece of flex tubing of the appropriate size and a hose clamp would solve any problem of it ever overflowing on the floor but you choose to NOT do that.............hummmmmm

 

[chrismhaase]

redox, correct me if I am wrong, as for overflowing isn't the concern on the filter on the right only? If the one on the left overflows, no big deal right? And if the one on the right overflows then that is when you have a problem. Is this correct? If it is, can youjust move the one on the right more towards the center of the sump? To do this couldnt you use some sort of sock suspension system, ie pvc like my setup, or a hanger?

 

[redox]

i will post some pics to clear this up. the sock on the right is tied to 4"pvc that catches 3 overspills that are fed by 2 different pumps that are fed by several thousand gallons per/hr. If the right hand sock is left unchanged it will fowwel out and speww water out towards the floor. simple change it often. Ok I learn from my mistakes i could extend the right hand return with a piece of 4"pvc but we wouldnt have anything to talk about

 

[chrismhaase]

I understand this, but could you just add another sock, move some around? I guess pictures will help. We will wait.....

 

[redox]

also socks might contain fish so.. check them often because someones life might depend on it

 

[chrismhaase]

I haven't caught a fish yet, a few snails and crabs though.

 

[JetCat USA]

only thing I've caught in mine were some lettuce nudi's, quiet a number of yrs ago i had a Greek Goddess that would end up in the sump pretty often, i guess she climbed out of the sock when she went down.

 

[redox]

high flow rates is why it is like this

[/IMG]so when that sock fowells out it tends to dump water over the edge of the sump. change em out often

 

[JetCat USA]

a street elbow would solve all the overflow issues in that setup.

 

[ksouers]

I don't use a "real" sock, but the little bags that come with a canister of Phosban. I have a bit of an algae problem and it traps the filaments very well but lets lots of stuff through. I rinse them out with tap water, turning it inside out. Part of my daily routine.

It also does a pretty good job of catching the occasional wayward peppermint shrimp (quite often). Since my skimmer is in the same chamber the overflow dumps to, I'd like to catch the little critters before they have a chance to go through the grinder.

Never caught any pods, just shrimp.

 

[HBtank]

I run no sock and took it a step further and added a large rock rubble rack (lots off egg crate to provide places for filter feeders) in the the first chamber with a cryptic zone underneath and in the second chamber of the sump another rack with more rock rubble, a cryptic DSB and cheato growing area to create nice areas to help propagate life from all the free detrius food.

I never cleaned my sump and this is just an extension of what I saw as a place to create different habitats and feed it with the tank detrius.

I guess I am lazy, but I would rather my tank recylcle itself and save me time on both ends.

I am kinda the opposite of a BB tank and my sump would give some people nightmares. I think it adds a whole different element to my tank though.

 

[chrismhaase]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10776221#post10776221 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by redox
high flow rates is why it is like this

[/IMG]so when that sock fowells out it tends to dump water over the edge of the sump. change em out often

Redox- Getting back to what we talked about earlier, couldn't you just add maybe a 6" lead to take the PVC lead even further over the sump and take the sock and its possible overflow more over the sump?