ReefWreak-Thanks Eric, I appreciate, it has been alot of work & going over every detail over and over, several trips to HD for 1 lil item over and over. Its been alittle tougher since the board has been sooo slow and not much input on the thread, but Im glad you found it now. Uhm, yeah, I already order my lights, they should be here next week, I ordered 250W HQI w Icecap ballast, 14K phoenix, Im excited about them, you & mike really talked me into them!! I am looking forward to using the T5s for the sunrise & sunset effect, I have new extra blue bulbs, butIm waiting til the Halides get here to see if I want all actinic on the t5s or if I want to keep them half blue and half white, I'll decide once I have the pheonixs & see what they look like together. they already seem pretty blue at 1/2 & 1/2.