Finally an easy solution to bryopsis!

[montrealreef]

TWallace,

I agree with you that improving nutrient export when bryopsis has a stronghold in your tank will not solve the problem. I tried many things as well and my Nitrates and phosphates had always been undetectable by Salifert test kits. Nothing worked till I used Mg.

What I meant to say is that after you get rid of bryopsis with Mg treatment, you need to limit your nutrients in order to prevent its return. Otherwise, as soon as the Mg level starts to return to NSW levels, the bryopsis will come back. This happened to me a few times till I upgraded my skimmer.

If keeping Mg at 1600 to 1800 were harmless, then I would not mind keeping it at that level, but after a few weeks of high Mg, some of my LPS corals that were doing exceptionally well for almost 2 years started to separate from the bony skeleton. I lost 3 large colonies. I also lost many snails , serpent starts, and a diadema urchin that I had for over a year.

Of course every system is unique, and my experience is not necessarily generalizable. I am just sharing my observations with you.

best wishes

sam

 

[Hooked_on_Phish]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10280626#post10280626 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Peter Eichler
Epsom is a salt, Epson makes printers

I wish I still had some Bryopsis I'd buy a few 10 gallons and do some experiments.

I'm only on page 11 atm and I know this is an old thread but I just had to smile when I read "I wish I still had some Bryopsis"

I have to believe that, that is the first timer anyone has ever typed those words in that order.

 

[Mikeyjer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11989697#post11989697 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by montrealreef
TWallace,

I agree with you that improving nutrient export when bryopsis has a stronghold in your tank will not solve the problem. I tried many things as well and my Nitrates and phosphates had always been undetectable by Salifert test kits. Nothing worked till I used Mg.

What I meant to say is that after you get rid of bryopsis with Mg treatment, you need to limit your nutrients in order to prevent its return. Otherwise, as soon as the Mg level starts to return to NSW levels, the bryopsis will come back. This happened to me a few times till I upgraded my skimmer.

If keeping Mg at 1600 to 1800 were harmless, then I would not mind keeping it at that level, but after a few weeks of high Mg, some of my LPS corals that were doing exceptionally well for almost 2 years started to separate from the bony skeleton. I lost 3 large colonies. I also lost many snails , serpent starts, and a diadema urchin that I had for over a year.

Of course every system is unique, and my experience is not necessarily generalizable. I am just sharing my observations with you.

best wishes

sam

I do have to agree with Sam on this issue. I have too tried tech M several times so far and I have lost all my snails and it's making my LPS corals very unhappy, samething that happened to Sam's LPS. But bryopsis just kept coming back, I am going to look for a different solution, but it was good at the time when it wipe out ALL of the bryopsis in the tank. By the way guys, this stuff WILL kill cheato, it wipe mine all out!!! I would take out Cheato during any treatment cause your just feeding the tank some more nutrients that you don't want.....I've been trying some new stuffs that does not kill my snails and keeping bryopsis at bay, doesn't kill it off, but slowing down the growth, it doesn't bother my corals either. More water changes and time to try the skimmer upgrade.......

 

[Mikeyjer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11841125#post11841125 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SimonSKL
If I read it correctly in this thread, no one really knows what exactly is in Kent's Tech M and in what concentrations. MgCl2 and MgSO4 are two of the main active ingredients plus something else. Those other ingredients plus the Mg are responsible for the success of Tech M in killing the bryopsis. I wish there is a way to find out what those other ingredients are and their concentrations. Has anyone done any search on the MSDS of Tech M?

To me, it's the Copper.....That's why it ticks off corals and kills off inverts.....

 

[TWallace]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11995872#post11995872 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mikeyjer
To me, it's the Copper.....That's why it ticks off corals and kills off inverts.....

That's just pure speculation and guesswork. I never lost any snails or corals during Tech M treatment. I only had some softies and zoanthids lose some color, but they recovered.

 

[patwillman]

Use "Cycle" in your tank. Add in quantities for initial setup, and your algae will go away in a few days. It took me over a year to find this out, and I have been Green Hair Algae free from then on.

 

[john603]

What is "Cycle"?

 

[TWallace]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12002415#post12002415 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by patwillman
I have been Green Hair Algae free from then on.

Bryopsis != hair algae, for the 5000th time.

 

[patwillman]

Hi John603
Cycle is an additive for fresh or saltwater that puts beneficial bacteria in your aquarium that reduces amonia and nitrite. It is more than likely what you used when you first set up your aquarium to age the water, I know that is when I first used it, and after so many months, I did not use it any more. But believe me, I keep it on hand now, and have for many months now.

It will work for you as it did for me. It is inexpensive, and works quickly( in just a few days), with just one dose.

After all the advice I received, and all the headaches I had over Green Hair Algae, as I purchased Tangs, a product called "Algae be gone", many water changes etc. This was so simple. I have since told anyone with this problem, and they have been successful too.

I have given this advice before

 

[frednwilma1999]

WoW Alot of info cramed into my brain,Tried reading dilligantly for the first 17 pages. My concensis is this, Teck m is the way to go , Epsom/mag flake soup works the same. I have a gal. of b-ionic magnesium I got on trade a long time ago, . Anyone try this? Results? Long story short, Im gona go get the teck m. New to the fourms reefin for about year and a half. 90gal bryopsis tank, Corals in there some where!!!!!!!!

 

[montrealreef]

patwillman,

I don't want to hijack the thread (this thread is about Mg treatment) but I would like to state that I've heard similar success stories from experienced local reefers about eliminating hair algae (and cyanobacyeria) using a similar product called ZeoBak, which is part of the Zeovit system and presumably acts in the same way as cycle. However, I've not tried this myself.

One thing I find difficult to understand is how bacteria can stay viable in a closed bottle on a shelf for many months without a source of food or O2 and how the bacteria affects the algae in such a short time (it takes many weeks to notice a difference in nutrient levels yet apparently the algae disappears within a few days)... There are many threads about using sugar/vodka to promote bacterial growth to eliminate nitrates but perhaps it's worth starting a new thread specifically addressing the issue of using bacterial products to control algae....

 

[boobookitty]

Uh oh.

Red alert! Defcon 1! Duck! Duck!

 

[trueblackpercula]

OK evryone Techm worked like a charm in my tank all bryopis is gone and i mean gone. reaised level to 1600 and its gone man thank you who ever it was that found this out..............

Michael

 

[MrSquid]

For those of you who used Tech M, were you following the recommended dosage?

I've got my mag up to 1350 using the mag supplement with receipe #1 from TwoPartSolution. I started adding TechM yesterday. But at the bottle's recommeded dosage (18.5ppm/day), I'm thinking it's gonna take forever to get my mag to 1500 or 1600 using Tech M.

 

[boobookitty]

I raised mine by anywhere from 50 to 100 per day.

 

[TWallace]

I raised mine by about 100ppm per day.

 

[Morn]

This thread has blown my mind, I am well up for trying this but I need some help in identifying if I actually have the dreaded weed or whether its simply a hair algae of some kind.

These pictures have caused a complex debate on another forum but I would like to get your opinion whether its Bryopsis or not.

Any ideas?

 

[aquaconnect]

Looks like what I had!

 

[Morn]

I have not managed to get through all 31 pages as yet so I take it that you identified this as Bryopsis and you treated it??

Sorry to be a pain.

EDIT: Managed to search your post and already know the answer.

Cheers

:rollface:

 

[MrSquid]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12048787#post12048787 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by boobookitty
I raised mine by anywhere from 50 to 100 per day.

You had to have been dumping a TON of Tech M into your 240. I'd be worried about the copper at that point. It'd be interesting to know the copper ppm in a typical dosage.