First look at the Salifert Potassium test 'in the wild'

Whitebeam

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Before I start, let me state that I am not associated with Salifert or any of its employees or agents other than as a satisfied customer of their products.

The new Salifert Potassium 'Reef Test' arrived in the post today. The box sports their new design for their new Reef Test range:

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And contains the usual sort of things:

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Ok - so far so good, but does it work? The only potassium reference solution I have is the FM multi reference. The FM bottle states that its K concentration is 408mg/l. Now my previous discussions with Habib have indicated that Salifert calibrate their tests to read ppm as mg/kg; as 1kg of S=35 water (including the reference) has a density of 1.025kg, this makes the K concentration of the reference 398.0mg/kg.

I have now conducted the test twice against this reference, with a clear result of 400ppm (mg/kg) each time. The test reads in steps of 10ppm, so I can state that, straight out of the box, this test gives a clear reading which appears to be accurate to within the tolerance of its resolution.

It is worth noting that the end-point colour is a very delicate baby-blue vs the cloudy white of the test sample prior to the end point. This was easy enough for me to spot against a white piece of paper in a room lit by bright indirect sunlight - I'm not certain if this will be quite so easy to spot in a room lit using the usual compact fluorescent household bulbs - I'll try this at some point in the future (once my test vials have finished soaking in citric acid for 12-24 hours to clean out the scale/scum that the test leaves in the vial (this cleaning step in either vinegar or citric acid is included in the instructions).

Summary: An accurate test within its resolution of 10ppm steps. The end point may be a little subtle for those who have difficulty seeing blues, but was very clear to my eyes.

Peter
 
Thanks.

Looks good. I'm curious to know how many people find potassium substantially depleted to try to know how generally useful K+ testing might be. Mine seemed OK when I tested it with the Fauna kit and compared it to a seawater standard.
 
I use a BK 160 (needle wheel) skimmer too. so for a standard system using just LR, GFO and Carbon the needle doesn't seem to deplete it. I was using RBS salt and have just changed to IO. I will monitor and post anything unusual as my water slowly changes to all IO.
 
Hi Whitebeam, thanks for the initial heads up in regards to this test as it felt like an eternity until i recieved mine finally today , i noticed with the test samples that it was quite "lumpy/scaley" when adding part 3 drop at a time. Did you find this also? and i tested my tank water as well as fresh seawater and found my tank didn't get past the first drop going blue and "splitting" the solution quite dramatically. So i am over 475ppm which means my KZ kallium test was no where near as effective in determining accurate read results.
 
Got my test kit today..... I also have the Red Sea Kit. Unfortunatly I am no more clear as to mt K level than I was before.


First issue... When I start adding the K dropps the solution imediatly seperates into something that liiks like cleaw water filled with little micro grains of rice... Theoir video doea not show this... They refer to it as scale but it looks more like a seperation to me...

Second there is no distinct or "dramatic" (as they put it on their instructions..) Color change... gradually changes to baby blue... at what point is it blue enough... I could be at somewhere between 400 and 460.


The RS kit never reaches the sky blue they show in their video... RS kit puts be below 320...
 
Yes a 2 second mix between drops... Salifert says in the instructions "the color change should be very dramatic".
 
Thanks.
Looks good. I'm curious to know how many people find potassium substantially depleted to try to know how generally useful K+ testing might be. Mine seemed OK when I tested it with the Fauna kit and compared it to a seawater standard.

Hi Randy! I have also been long thinking about potential potassium consumption in a reef tank. One of the consumers are perhaps, bacteria, when any of the carbon dosing systems is used. I tried to estimate potassium depletion by alcohol dosing.

Providing that marine redfield ratio is 106:16:1:1 (C:N:P:K), this would translate to roughly 203:71:3.1:1.9 (C2H5OH:NO3:PO4:KCl)

Which means, per about 200g of pure alcohol, about 2g of potassium chloride will be consumed (and this will result in the removal of 71g NO3- and 3g of PO4--- ions from the tank water). Providing that there is about 75g of potassium chloride per 100 liters (about 26 gallons) of seawater, 2g of potassium depletion is negligible, especially since dosing 200g of pure alcohol will be a quite a long run (anyway, I am now adding about 2g of potassium chloride to every 500ml of vodka that will be added to the tank? along with a bit of trace element mix).

If we roughly estimate that almost anything in the tank will contain potassium in the same Redfield proportion, we shall need a huge biomass growth in the tank to noticeably deplete potassium levels. Unless there are other factors that may affect potassium levels, such as the use of zeolite in KZ method, or likewise (almost all potassium salts are highly soluble, and I think no depletion due to precipitation will take place).

Herewith I conclude that in most cases potassium levels should not deplete in a reef tank, except for the use of zeolite or similar methods.

Do you think my reasoning is correct?
 
Been away a while.

The test solution is supposed to 'split' when you start adding solution 3. The waxy precipitate is not important to the reaction - it is the colour of the liquid that you're looking for. Take the first blue colour (i.e it isn't white or yellowy-creamy any more).

Peter
 
I agree that the titration should stop with the first change to some shade of blue. The depth of the color shouldn't matter.

I wouldn't trust the Redfield ratio to be correct. That number is for marine phytoplankton, and I doubt that many tanks support much phytoplankton growth.
 
Still find it strange... So this kit with only 3 drops can arguably be blue or white... Putting my potassium at 470+. 6 or so drops is blue... Yet my new red sea kit never reaches the sky blue color in their video so that says my potassium is less than 320..... I guess indeed to buy a 3 rd kit to see which is right...

I can tell you that when I dose potassium I get Better blues. When I stopped after a few weeks I lose them....
 
FWIW, I can't see an end point in my RS kit either :-(

Depending on where you are and prices for imports, it's probably cheaper and better for you to buy a bottle of Fauna Marin Multi Reference (I see one US supplier selling this for $25 plus shipping vs $46 for the FM K test) than to buy another test. The reference is as near as makes no difference (see my original post) 400mg/kg. You'll then know which test you have is right and by how far it is out.

Better still, you can use this reference to calibrate loads of other tests you may have (Ca, Mg, Alk, Sr etc) and you can use it to calibrate your refractometer at 35ppt. I don't know how I lived without this stuff ;-)

Peter
 
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