fish introduction order

[Jethr0]

am about to fill my first marine tank..ive got a 9x2x2
im trying to sort out a fish list and wondering what order people think I should introduce the fish..

2 x citron clown gobies (Gobiodon citrinus)
2 x clown fish (amphiprion occelaris)
3 x leopard wrasse in the hope that I get a harem and one male.. cant decide between (meleagris, geoffrey or bipartus)
1 x Kole Tang (Ctenochaetus Strigosus)
5 x bartlett anthias (Pseudanthias bartlettorum)
1 x potters angelfish (centropygne potteri)

thanks for advice :beer:

 

[snorvich]

In general, most aggressive last, most passive first. In your case, with leopard wrasses, I would wait until the tank matures so there are sufficient copepods.

[welcome]

 

[Jethr0]

thanks for the welcome

which order would u rank these in terms of aggression?

i am planning on breeding mysid shrimp in refugium and tank to help feed leopards.. hopefully i can use the shrimp to get them eating frozen while in qt anyway.

 

[breederforlife]

The order i would put them in :
1. Kole tang with the citron gobies
2.Anthias with the potters angel
3. Clownfish
4. Leopard wrasse

Just put the aggressive ones in last and you should be fine.

 

[ca1ore]

None of the fish you list are particularly aggressive outside their own species. Bartletts will go after each other, particularly as you will almost invariably end up with multiple males. Leopard wrasses are quite difficult to keep, particularly if this is your first marine tank. Potters can be touchy too.

 

[Jethr0]

thanks for the replys..

i am particularly worried bout the leopards. But i live in Australia, so i think they may be more readily available for me and with less travel stress. i know plenty of people that have meleagris females in their tanks, so im going to give them a try.

i had thought the kole tang should be last addition as wouldn't a tang be the most aggressive?

 

[snorvich]

thanks for the replys..

i am particularly worried bout the leopards. But i live in Australia, so i think they may be more readily available for me and with less travel stress. i know plenty of people that have meleagris females in their tanks, so im going to give them a try.

i had thought the kole tang should be last addition as wouldn't a tang be the most aggressive?

Yes, the tang is most aggressive but clownfish, once sexually mature can be a PITA too depending on species. The problem is that you want sufficient copepods for the leopard to graze; all will eat frozen and most will eat pellets but they graze constantly. So, in a perfect world, I would recommend the leopard at least 6 months down the line. Since it will be on your time zone it will not be jet lagged like those we (try to) acclimate in the states.

 

[mkoop]

I'd recommend taking 6-12 months while your tank matures to do some thorough research on QT, acclimation, sensitization methods for Leopards. This will also as mentioned give your time sufficient time to grow a pod population, which is essential. You'll want a good grasp on your introduction plan for the leopard.

Barlett's have been a PITA for me so far. I started with a quartet, one died for absolutely no explainable reason in QT. Of the 3 remaining, one is a dominant male, the other two are female. I added 3 additional females from QT recently. One turned into a submale during QT and was harassed at introduction. He immediately submits to the dominant male and the harassment has subsided for the most part. He has the male pelvic fins but female coloration, I am hoping that his transition pauses and the other male doesn't kill him off, but theres really no telling. These fish are very chippy and definitely want to have your tank covered for them.

HTH

 

[Jethr0]

I have done a bit of reading on leopards. Meleagris looks like the best pic for me as I live soo close geographically to where they are collected and hence gives the best chance of healthy specimens.

Planned introduction order at the moment:

2 x citron clown gobies (Gobiodon citrinus) Once water parameters start testing suitably

2 x clown fish (amphiprion occelaris) 2 months after gobies (to allow for qt)

5 x dispar anthias (Pseudanthias dispar) 2 months after clowns (to allow for qt) these guys are a lot easier to get here and reportedly easier to keep and hardier - not as pretty, but about quarter the price

3 x leopard wrasse (macropharyngodon meleagris) (at roughly the 9 month mark) to allow for pod and mysidae shrimp populations

1 x potters angelfish (centropygne potteri) these are not readily available to me, they often don't look the best in store - any recommendations for a substitute?

1 x Kole Tang (Ctenochaetus Strigosus)

 

[snorvich]

I have done a bit of reading on leopards. Meleagris looks like the best pic for me as I live soo close geographically to where they are collected and hence gives the best chance of healthy specimens.

Planned introduction order at the moment:

2 x citron clown gobies (Gobiodon citrinus) Once water parameters start testing suitably

2 x clown fish (amphiprion occelaris) 2 months after gobies (to allow for qt)

5 x dispar anthias (Pseudanthias dispar) 2 months after clowns (to allow for qt) these guys are a lot easier to get here and reportedly easier to keep and hardier - not as pretty, but about quarter the price

3 x leopard wrasse (macropharyngodon meleagris) (at roughly the 9 month mark) to allow for pod and mysidae shrimp populations

1 x potters angelfish (centropygne potteri) these are not readily available to me, they often don't look the best in store - any recommendations for a substitute?

1 x Kole Tang (Ctenochaetus Strigosus)

Looks pretty good to me. As far as a replacement for C. potteri, what are you looking for? Color? If so, there are some unique colored flame angels. Coral Beauties are gorgeous. But these may be difficult to find in oz.

 

[Jethr0]

I guess I wanted something a little different..
coral beautys are dime a dozen here - I could get 3 really small ones and try for a harem
flame angels are bit more expensive - but again a trio would be awesome

I have a pretty good idea where im heading atm. thanks for the input

 

[Paul B]

I would not put any cirton gobies in such a new tank. They will most likely starve.
But good luck with this project.