For the love of Genicanthus

[SDguy]

My swallowtails, especially my "male" are constantly biting at the surface, espacially the corners. No idea why they do that.

 

[nickiwit]

Here is a picture of mine. I have had him almost a year. He is more aggressive then I expected. He also nips at lps. I have several fish including the angel bite at the surface. I read somewhere that it makes them feel full.

 

[flameangel88]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13962889#post13962889 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SDguy
My swallowtails, especially my "male" are constantly biting at the surface, espacially the corners. No idea why they do that.

Does that mean the female biting the surface occassionally?


nickiwit--does your female bite the surface as well?

 

[nickiwit]

I don't have a female, just 1 male.

My regal tang goes to the surface and then comes down and blows bubbles out its gills. Then it chases them. My watanabei is the first fish I have had that will also chase the regals bubbles.

 

[flameangel88]

nickiwit--how long you have the male now? My understanding is that in the absence of a female the male will change back to female.

 

[nickiwit]

Okay I just checked my calendar to find the exact day I got him. I have had him 9 months.

I sure hope he doesn't turn into a female.

I have been looking for a female.

 

[flameangel88]

I hope you'll find him a female soon otherwise it may turn back. There's a picture of one turning from male to female on the previous page.

 

[GSMguy]

Will bellus and lamark females get along together?

 

[Canarygirl]

I have a pair of Bellus angels; the male is turning into a female I think as his coloring has considerably darkened, he's lost his yellow and the top half of him is a dark dusky grey now (bottom half is deep blue). He still has the deep swallow tail.

He still chases the female around, as he's done since the day I first introduced him. Lately I've noticed him biting at the surface of the water; he has also put on quite a bit of weight of late (the female has not).

Does anyone know whether two female Bellus angels in a 240 will cohabitate peacefully (there are lots of other fish too)?

 

[flameangel88]

When the female Watanabe was changing to male she packed on some serious weight in relatively short time frame and was also biting water at surface as well.

I've two female Bellus in a 180g without any problem so I don't you will.

 

[SDguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13963203#post13963203 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by flameangel88
Does that mean the female biting the surface occassionally?

Yes, although my sarcastic smilie was more for my weird male not staying male colors but not getting female colors either

 

[flameangel88]

I can't tell what mine is going through right now and hope some of you can tell from the pictures. For some reason to me it looks like changing back to female. Hope I'm wrong on this.

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The other side
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12-23

 

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14003435#post14003435 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
Will bellus and lamark females get along together?

Anybody?

 

[flameangel88]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14009032#post14009032 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
Anybody?

I never had a Lamark. I've 2 Bellus and they are pretty mellow. The only bully I ever seen in the Genicantus family is a female Swallowtail but it only bug the smaller ones and never go up against the bigger females. The longer the Swallowtail was in the more aggressive she got.

 

[GSMguy]

this lamark is just tiny, thanks Flame angel, i think i will try it.

 

[Chibils]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14009156#post14009156 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by flameangel88
I never had a Lamark. I've 2 Bellus and they are pretty mellow. The only bully I ever seen in the Genicantus family is a female Swallowtail but it only bug the smaller ones and never go up against the bigger females. The longer the Swallowtail was in the more aggressive she got.

I know what you mean. Mine was fine at first but got increasingly aggressive starting around the three month mark.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14009193#post14009193 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
this lamark is just tiny, thanks Flame angel, i think i will try it.

I picked up a 1.5" lamarck today. Good luck.

 

[Chibils]

I added my lamarck to my dt in a hamster ball for social acclimation and to get her feeding well after being introduced to her new environment. She was feeding, but not great (interest but not aggressively taking to it) when I gave her HUFA brine and plankton. Overnight she managed to get out of the ball while it was tethered (lid off) to the side of the tank. She shows interest in food--and will "stalk" it--but will not actually take any. IME, this is a good sign (as they are usually just adapting or learning to accept prepared foods), but how long will she last? She's tiny and I can no longer target feed her. I know with larger fish it's generally fine to the one week mark+, but she has a very fast metabolism as a tiny fish.

 

[flameangel88]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14013493#post14013493 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Chibils
I added my lamarck to my dt in a hamster ball for social acclimation and to get her feeding well after being introduced to her new environment. She was feeding, but not great (interest but not aggressively taking to it) when I gave her HUFA brine and plankton. Overnight she managed to get out of the ball while it was tethered (lid off) to the side of the tank. She shows interest in food--and will "stalk" it--but will not actually take any. IME, this is a good sign (as they are usually just adapting or learning to accept prepared foods), but how long will she last? She's tiny and I can no longer target feed her. I know with larger fish it's generally fine to the one week mark+, but she has a very fast metabolism as a tiny fish.

I don't sweat anymore with fish 3"+ as I've goten used to them taking 4 to 7.5 weeks to eat prepared food but I always feed twice a week live clams on half-shell to entice them.

The smaller say 2" and less they need to be fed every 2 hours which I can't do so I stay away from. In your case with it being only 1.5" I would soak brine for half an hour with small amount of garlic and more vitachem or selcon every couple of hours. Have you try NL finicky fish formula? Not all but most new fish likes NL when starting them with pellets.

 

[Chibils]

I soaked it in garlic last night--perhaps that's what sparked the feeding response. The HUFA brine is Ocean Nutrition, and my fish go nuts for it. They also love the prime reef, plankton, and PE mysis (way too big for her!). I'm struggling to find food small enough for her tiny mouth without going freeze-dried (NLS 1mm pellets, NLS THERA + A .5mm pellets--would love to get her on these for now, cyclopeze). Any suggestions?

 

[SDguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14013560#post14013560 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Chibils
I soaked it in garlic last night--perhaps that's what sparked the feeding response. The HUFA brine is Ocean Nutrition, and my fish go nuts for it. They also love the prime reef, plankton, and PE mysis (way too big for her!). I'm struggling to find food small enough for her tiny mouth without going freeze-dried (NLS 1mm pellets, NLS THERA + A .5mm pellets--would love to get her on these for now, cyclopeze). Any suggestions?

I've had good results mincing the PE mysis while it is still frozen using a small knife.