For those that hate microbubbles

ocd_mariner

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Post your lamentations here.

God I hate them. I mean like, really really hate them. Having to get a shot at the doctors office when you are seven years old hate them.

I stare at my tank and picture in my mind a life without microbubbles.

I guess I'll start redoing plumbing this weekend.
 
Do you know where they are being introduced?

- Return
- Flow input to sump
- Skimmer after flow input

I use a filter sock on the overflow input to sump. My skimmer output flows into that sock as well.

No problems here
 
Filter sock here as well. Could be in the return, could be the fuge design. Not sure. I'll have to do some investigation this weekend.
 
How long have you had the new system running? Seems like I read somewhere new pipes have a break in period and can cause bubbles? Hmmm, not sure but seems like I read that.
Also I have a ggod link to a bubble trap I will post tonight. Its on my hubbys laptop but it looked like a easy fix to a lot of folks bubble problems. It is something like a PVC Y and the air and bubbles escape through the Y and the water comes out the bottom well under water air free. If your Bubbles are infact comming from your overflow that is.
 
I agree with her 110% If it is your overflows go to Hofer gurgle
buster, best overflow design I have ever used. And I have tried
them all, and real cheap to make. Just my 2 cents.
 
I'll count myself lucky on the new tank, it's being plumbed and running (empty) for a few months, and I have zero bubbles in my display, looks AWESOME.

My 2 smaller tanks that have skimmers, however, have some micro bubbles, and I've just gotten used to them. The skimmer are HOB, though, so it's to be expected somewhat.
 
i agree, i have a hob and had a big problem with them as it was breaking in but now i really only have a problem with them after i turn all the pumps on after i feed, the skimmer will spit them out for about 2 hours then they fade to non nusance levels but never go away
 
After trying to make a sump out of a 20 tall and use a Coralife SS 65 in it, I learned the meaning of bubble box... and always running my cheato ball in the section before the pump (cheato slows the flow of water and grabs any of the bubbles that might make it out of the skimmer chamber).

The first step is definitely diagnosing where your bubbles are coming from.

I know for sure that tanks seem to naturally get better a couple of weeks after they've been set up. If you're running a new skimmer (can't remember), that could be the culprit and I'd wait a couple more weeks before getting radical on re-doing any plumbing.

If the bubbles seem to just be coming from the return area, do you have a bubble box?

Do you have something at the bottom of that box that forces the majority of the water flowing in back up to the surface? I honestly threw an icecube bucket underneath of the place that I had my overflows and skimmer feeding into. This takes the majority of the flow back upward where the bubbles break allowing slower moving (hopefully relatively bubble-free) water under the first set of baffles.

Depending on what the output of your skimmer is like, try as hard as you can to get the output of that as far from the pump as you can. I've never seen any kind of skimmer, regardless of cost, that didn't put more microbubbles into a tank than you would want to have get to your pump and into the display.

This may sound stupid, but I know you're probably running a lot of flow in the main tank... are any of your pumps blowing too much on the surface and dragging small amounts of bubbles underwater with the turbulence. I once had a pump that I didn't realize was creating a little vortex at the surface that just pulled a couple of bubbles under the water every once in a while. When you've got a lot of flow in a tank, small microbubbles can stay suspended for quite a long time.

I personally wouldn't rip apart your plumbing unless you think you might have a leak on the suction side of the return pump or a closed loop. If this is what you think you do have, do your very best to isolate the joints that you think might be leaking (the goal being to reduce how much you have to drain your tank or re-plumb) If there is air trapped in your return plumbing, it should work its way out as long as you keep the return running, so if you suspect that, just don't shut it off for feeding for a few days and see if they stop. If air is getting trapped somewhere and is just slowly releasing into the aquarium, try re-routing the return plumbing so that air doesn't have a place to gather (if you have a loop or something in the plumbing).

Anyway... that's all just stuff I've learned to try. Good luck.
 
I guess the problem really is pinpointing where the bubbles are coming from. I still haven't made it past that stage :)
 
Ok, just redid the plumbing from the sump to the pump.

Same @#$*@ problem.

Is it possible the pump itself is sucking air in? I can *hear* the pump every few minutes get a burst of air.

For the love of mary, I need to figure this out.
 
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