Found at the Beach...

[sanchoy]

Very nice find!!!!

To all the haters, lay off this guy. He find something he thought was interesting and shared it. You guys act as though he find a baby whale and stuffed it in a pool. Come on guys/or girls!!!

If you cared soo much about taking livestock from the ocean, don't have any period. To the original poster, there is some people on these boards who will flame you regardless of the topic. People get their undies wet over which brand of flake food to feed their clownfish here, let alone getting a star from the ocean.

Sometimes, its easier too take these comments lightly..

In thailand, we put stuff in our tanks all the time from the ocean. Yes there is licenses and so forth, but the thai police here is more relaxed and understand its for a hobby not for sale.. They don't get their pants wet over some starfish, unlike some people.

 

[lordofthereef]

How are you seeing it! All I see the star...

How about some more pictures of these free controversial creatures! Lol

The hermit is in the upper right. Pretty massive.

One legit question I do have is about the FL water temps. Are they close the the ~80 that we (generally) keep our tanks?

I know anything in the pacific would just cook in 80 degree water. Everything there is used to the 60's or lower.

 

[APBonds]

The star looks like a sand sifter take care of it like any other star fish and yes its reef safe. Now the hermit crab I don't know what kind it is but if it is the brown and white stripped gulf hermit it is NOT reef safe this crab will eat any thing and every thing it can.
I cant realy see the crab or fish so I can't help you on those. The snail are easy to see if they are reef safe, put some shrimp or other tank safe meat near them and if they attack it they are not reef safe.

 

[Shells4]

We have brought live stock home from the beach for many years. We are about 850miles from the beach and I have much, much less loss bringing things home myself than I do purchasing from a LFS. It is much less stress for the fish/invertabrates to not go through multiple handlers. Persoanally, I prefer to know how the critters were taken care of and I research alot before going to the beach. I keep a seashore guide book in my beach bag in case we run accross something we haven't seen before. Our tanks a pretty full now so it is rare we bring things home anymore, but I feel more confident doing that than purchasing something I don't know what it has been through.

A couple of years ago we were at the beach we saw a family with 3, 5 gallon buckets completely full of large starfish that they were going to take home and dry out so they could decorate their house with "memories of their wonderful vacation". That is the kind of behavior that makes me sick.

 

[cside]

The hermit is in the upper right. Pretty massive.

One legit question I do have is about the FL water temps. Are they close the the ~80 that we (generally) keep our tanks?

I know anything in the pacific would just cook in 80 degree water. Everything there is used to the 60's or lower.

http://www.weather.com/maps/activity/boatbeach/floridacoastalwatertemperatures_large.html these are coastal water temps. Idk where exactly he got them from but they should adapt quite well.

 

[SHAKEEL]

WOW maybe I need to start strolling our beaches here in Florida because my Harlequin Shrimp would really like that starfish not to mention me having to skip buying them twice a week.

 

[killarsox]

I think we should take it easy on him. Many of the livestocks we buy are also taken from the wild. The difference is, we paid and he didn't. That said, I do agree that the starfish will be a challenge.

I agree in a sense, however the major difference is the livestock that we purchase is legally collected. I believe a permit or license of some sort is required for any kind of collecting. On a side note, cool starfish.

 

[srusso]

I agree in a sense, however the major difference is the livestock that we purchase is legally collected. I believe a permit or license of some sort is required for any kind of collecting. On a side note, cool starfish.

#1 - you really don't know how anything you buy has been collected... Unless you do it yourself

#2 - he clearly said he has a SW lic... That's what was needed in his area...

 

[Bigcefa]

You see my pic under my name that's my backyard and I take all kinds of stuff from the ocean and across the street I have the intercoastal which I get all my snails and crabs from I get fish coral crabs snails all for free you guys are just jelly! Call the RC police on me!

 

[jr_casteel1999]

i had the same problem with cora which is my local reef club. they charged me 13 bucks for membership and banned me from the site 3 months later for having animals that dident make it. pretty much got robbed for 13 dollars. thats why reef central is my new home!!!

 

[Mbachota]

Thats pretty cool that you found something. I hope it survives for a very long time for you.

 

[Beaun]

It has nothing to do with knowing more than anyone else, or being right. It has everything to do with wanting to give sound advice. There is nothing wrong with collecting your own stuff, I had a local species tank myself. But a sea star is not something that will likely survive, it is best left in the ocean. Crabs are not problems to feed, but they may eat your fish, which is something to look out for. Local species tanks can be a lot of fun, but you need to have a plan and not just take everything out there, know what you are picking up first.

 

[dwd5813]

have to agree with beaun here. i have taken things from local waters myself (with a valid license) and been quite happy with the results. i did, however, research what was around here and make sure i knew how to identify the critters i was after. that makes all the difference in the world. i wish the op luck but also wish that in the future, people know what they're taking before they decide to try it out in their tank.

 

[MLconstruction]

Looks like a pin fish. good bait. I would feed him to my nem!

 

[mford514]

well here are some close up pics in my qt tank. any idea what kind of fish they are? i could be wrong but i don't think its a pin fish. looks like some kind of bottom feeder...

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[pinkneyss]

I may be wrong, but that looks like a juvenile Redfish (Red Drum). If so, you better hope nobody from the Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission is reading this thread.

Regulations for Red Drum (Redfish):
Not less than 18" or more than 27".
1 per harvester per day.
Gigging, spearing, snatching prohibited.

 

[mford514]

nope try again....its not a red fish....this fish has a mouth under its body kinda like a sting rays mouth....all i did was dipped my bucket in the water...there were like 50+ of them in a school right by the shore.

 

[pinkneyss]

Maybe you've never seen a Redfish?? They don't have a mouth like a regular fish..

Red Drum: Sciaenops ocellatus
Appearance:
Chin without barbels
Copper-bronze body; lighter in clear waters
Mouth horizontal and opens downward
Large scales

 

[greech]

Baby whiting but +1 on redfish mouth shape and +1 to beaun's post.

Not my business to rip the OP or anyone else but if you wouldn't pay money for something you don't know how to take care of why is it any different to take it out of the wild?

 

[gabew]

Jeeze some people can get really mad over this stuff. +1000 to all the people saying "most live stock in this hobby is wild" "just think how much people kill for souvenirs" "its not like it is guaranteed to have survived in the wild anyway" and so on. I go down to the beach every weekend to collect stuff for my coldwater tank. So far everything is doing great and some fish are even breeding. I doubt half that stuff would still be alive in the wild. If you guys got problem with that you should consider changing hobbies. We as a species destroy are destroying the world, get used to it.

Nd to the OP nice finds btw :thumbsup: