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Dear Sir,
The reason you have ICH in your tank is because you have added too many fish at such a short time. Many of these fish are stressed and are loosing their immune systems ability to fight disease. You must understand that you cannot add that many wild caught fish from the sea into youyr aquarium in such little time.
Sir,
I implore you to just lest the tank be - there will be some survivors. After your tank has settled - then add one fish at a time. you may have experience with Reef keeping but fish are a whole different ballgame. By scrubing the tank and treating the tank you will accomplish nothing but stress more fish.
I had a 125 gallon and I killed a lot of fish because I added soo many in soo little time - then I learned that I cannot just add a whole bunch of fish. after that - I was able to keep fish alive.
By the way - I too had ICH and parasites and I treated with medication and copper and tore the whole tank down for nothing. The answer was lying within me - when I learned that I cannot add a bunch of fish in so little time.
dstoneburg
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I would just like to point out while you have a magnificient tank, you yourself admit that some of the fish you have put in their should not be put together and will kill eachother. You state you started with nine clowns and will prolly end with two. Why not save the ones that are still alive? While its a cool trend to go against the norm, you should only do it if you have the resources and experienced. From my point of view I think you lack both. Anyone attempting to mix species that shouldnt be mixed and attempt species considered expert only and have a poor survival rate at the very LEAST, should QT. They should have enough time to monitor the fish and remove the problems asap. Not leave them in there to fend for themselves. Do some research bro!
Hi,
I've been reading the thread and I'm sorry to hear of the deaths of your fishes. I've too have been keeping marine tanks a long time, actually longer than 20 years. I would agree with the posts that suggest you not lower the salinity of your tank. Aside from not fixing the ich problem, to remove the inverts to another tank would be quite stressful on them.
I am an anemone aficionado, I have H. magnificas and RBTA's that I've had for years--not in the same tank though. I noticed that at some point you added a condylactis to the tank with two H. magnifica. I strongly suggest that you remove the condylactis. It really is not a good idea to mix different species. And, condy's are known to move around frequently, all the more reason to remove it to another tank.
You mentioned that you had an H. magnifica for 4 years once, what happened to that anemone? I always am curious about the fate of anemones.
Best of luck to you and your tank occupants. Hopefully all will settle. No more additions and the removal of the condy would be my advice.
Gary
I've been reading the thread and I'm sorry to hear of the deaths of your fishes. I've too have been keeping marine tanks a long time, actually longer than 20 years. I would agree with the posts that suggest you not lower the salinity of your tank. Aside from not fixing the ich problem, to remove the inverts to another tank would be quite stressful on them.
I am an anemone aficionado, I have H. magnificas and RBTA's that I've had for years--not in the same tank though. I noticed that at some point you added a condylactis to the tank with two H. magnifica. I strongly suggest that you remove the condylactis. It really is not a good idea to mix different species. And, condy's are known to move around frequently, all the more reason to remove it to another tank.
You mentioned that you had an H. magnifica for 4 years once, what happened to that anemone? I always am curious about the fate of anemones.
Best of luck to you and your tank occupants. Hopefully all will settle. No more additions and the removal of the condy would be my advice.
Gary
Hi Gary,
I´d already removed all LR and Inverts from the main tank. The fishes were very bad and I had the need to do something. I lost the Chaetodon xanthurus and the last Zanclus.
As I said know I have the water within 1011/1012 ppm and one week as passed and the fish are really well...
Once I´m gonna have the fish in hiposalinity for at least 6 weeks I had another fish...!! Now a magnificient Pomacanthus chathometopon.
I know that I´m very stubborn but this was one oportunity that I couldn´t miss!
They all went to a LFS and wont come back.
When I got married I couln´t had an aquarium for a couple of months and the magnifica went to a LFS (I lost the track)
Cheers,
Diogo
I´d already removed all LR and Inverts from the main tank. The fishes were very bad and I had the need to do something. I lost the Chaetodon xanthurus and the last Zanclus.
As I said know I have the water within 1011/1012 ppm and one week as passed and the fish are really well...
Once I´m gonna have the fish in hiposalinity for at least 6 weeks I had another fish...!! Now a magnificient Pomacanthus chathometopon.
I know that I´m very stubborn but this was one oportunity that I couldn´t miss!
They all went to a LFS and wont come back.
When I got married I couln´t had an aquarium for a couple of months and the magnifica went to a LFS (I lost the track)
Cheers,
Diogo
Hi Ed,
I´d read that 1.012 will do the work! Are you sure that 1.009 is needed?
I have 4 clowns - the mated pair and two others that now with no anemones in the tank are fine. The anthias seem to dislike the hiposalinity and are all 4 hidden. The only spot that they have is near the pumps. I must say that I think that they wont survive...
The eibli is now in the sump - he gave a very nice welcome to the chatoomethopon!
Cheers,
Diogo
I´d read that 1.012 will do the work! Are you sure that 1.009 is needed?
I have 4 clowns - the mated pair and two others that now with no anemones in the tank are fine. The anthias seem to dislike the hiposalinity and are all 4 hidden. The only spot that they have is near the pumps. I must say that I think that they wont survive...
The eibli is now in the sump - he gave a very nice welcome to the chatoomethopon!
Cheers,
Diogo
Big E
Premium Member
1.009 -.10 is the prescribed level
http://www.petsforum.com/personal/trevor-jones/hyposalinity.html
I've had the parasite still live at the levels you have it at.
Some anthias struggle with hypo. Keep an eye on them.
http://www.petsforum.com/personal/trevor-jones/hyposalinity.html
I've had the parasite still live at the levels you have it at.
Some anthias struggle with hypo. Keep an eye on them.
Hey,
Good luck with the fish. Definitely quarantine if you decide to add any additional fish. If I were you, I would just keep the fish you have and not add any. Once you have the ich problem under control, then you can add the live rock and some soft corals. Understocking and letting the specimens grow and thrive ultimately makes for a much more pleasant aquarium experience, imo.
And thank you for updating me on your H. magnificas. It's probably a good thing that they went back to the LFS for now.
Best of luck to you and your fishes,
Gary
Good luck with the fish. Definitely quarantine if you decide to add any additional fish. If I were you, I would just keep the fish you have and not add any. Once you have the ich problem under control, then you can add the live rock and some soft corals. Understocking and letting the specimens grow and thrive ultimately makes for a much more pleasant aquarium experience, imo.
And thank you for updating me on your H. magnificas. It's probably a good thing that they went back to the LFS for now.
Best of luck to you and your fishes,
Gary
I second this opinion as well. I was going to say it before but I held back.
Really, you will enjoy the fish more and the tank as a whole if you just let it settle down and stabilize.
Also - Remember Idols are some of the most difficult fish to keep alive in the hobby and they probably would have died anyway. In my opinion no one should try to keep an Idol unless they can devout lots of swimming room for the fish and have sponge on hand to feed. A fish food brand called NLS would also be a good part of the staple as well. The owner of this food brand has a video of his Marine FO tank with all of the fish he feeds excusively on NLS and ther is an Idol in there.
Hi,
Two weeks passed snce I started the hipo treatment and even with two more deads the other fish are doing fine. The chaetometopon didn´t make it and died a couple of days ago (this time I don´t think that could be anything else but poison...). Also the chaetodon punctofasciatus didn´t make it!
The stock in the tank is:
1 Pomacanthus imperador
1 Apolemicthys trimaculatus
1 Chaetodontoplus mesoleucos
1 Centropyge eibli
2 Chaetodon auriga
2 Chrysyptera cyanea
4 Amphyprion ocellaris
1 Salaria fasciatus
Here are some pics
The imperator is doing fine but has some marks in his head! Looks like the disease that the Discus got. Anyone can identify what´s wrong? Can it be just some scars from the crypto?
The trimaculatus is bigger and curiosly he was the only fish that didn´t got crypto.
The 2 auriga are very well and with bright color now. They seem to be the ones that are growing more in the aquarium.
Cheers,
Diogo
Two weeks passed snce I started the hipo treatment and even with two more deads the other fish are doing fine. The chaetometopon didn´t make it and died a couple of days ago (this time I don´t think that could be anything else but poison...). Also the chaetodon punctofasciatus didn´t make it!
The stock in the tank is:
1 Pomacanthus imperador
1 Apolemicthys trimaculatus
1 Chaetodontoplus mesoleucos
1 Centropyge eibli
2 Chaetodon auriga
2 Chrysyptera cyanea
4 Amphyprion ocellaris
1 Salaria fasciatus
Here are some pics
The imperator is doing fine but has some marks in his head! Looks like the disease that the Discus got. Anyone can identify what´s wrong? Can it be just some scars from the crypto?
The trimaculatus is bigger and curiosly he was the only fish that didn´t got crypto.
The 2 auriga are very well and with bright color now. They seem to be the ones that are growing more in the aquarium.
Cheers,
Diogo
