Fragged My Magenta Magnifica

I looked at it this way: Yes, there is risk to cutting any anemone, but there is also risk just keeping any anemone alive. I have seen too many excellent reefkeepers over the years have unexpected disasters. Things from long term power outages, cracked tanks, accidental contaminants in a tank system... it goes on and on. We all know it happens to the best of us even high profile reefers and leaders in the field.

I believe that cutting a healthy, established magnifica carries a yet unknown amount of risk, but the potential benefit is huge.

Imagine having that tank disaster and losing your prize anemone, but then being able to ask that friend that you gave a clone to to return the favor. Even just knowing that there are clones out there would be peace of mind to me.

I have been there done that with losing a prized showpiece magnifica. I had a purple based one that I had grown from 6" to over 2' over a couple of years. I also had fragged an orange based one (that was a clone from a friend) three times, but lost the purple and every one of the oranges with a rapidly spreading infection from a new magnifica that I didn't QT.

That hurt. I almost left the hobby over that. I didn't even clean my tank glass for 3 months. I just couldn't look at the empty spots in the tank.

I would LOVE to have a clone of that beautiful purple one and if I had fragged and shared I might have one right now. I just hadn't wanted to risk losing it and wanted to see how several generations of the orange clones did first.

If fragging these guys is (as I suspect) almost as risk free as fragging BTAs then it will be safer in my mind to frag than it is to not frag. Only by people like us who have good understanding of anemone health and care trying it out will we know if fragging is the answer.

I see this fuscia magnifica as nearly irreplaceable, so I'm working to make it replaceable.

( off the soapbox :) mighty high falutin' words when all I did was chop an anemone in half :rolleyes: )
 
I got a nice purple Magnifica that divided and got 4 clones from it. I gave away two, just in hope that if I need to in the future, I can get them back. My tank crashed and I lost both of the clones in my tank. I tried but was not able to get the clone back. Sometime later both clones died, one durring a hurcaine and the other due to unclear problem.
I almost gave one to traveller7. I forgot what happended but somehow we never connected. If I did, I would be in great shape to get one clone back. I did not so all I have of my anemone is some old pictures.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13207203#post13207203 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by OrionN
I almost gave one to traveller7. I forgot what happended but somehow we never connected. If I did, I would be in great shape to get one clone back.
Howdy Minh :)

The third clone was partially bleached at the time and we felt the stress of shipping might have done it in so we held off.

Thread related spam of a personal nature:
fwiw: Had 1 natural division in my main system, stress related, both eventually died.
fwiw2: Had 1 torn in a rock related accident, one survived and one died.
fwiw3: Have some which have been introduced to a sharp knife, the jury is out, more to come ;>)

Cheers.
 
Oooo this thread is getting juicy :) Why am I the only one posting pics?

A few more tidbits about this anemone. It is the first magnifica I have ever owned that is less light seeking. Normally I put my my magnificas on an inverted glass vase and they perch at the top stretching towards the MH. This guy (I guess now I should say these guys :cool: climb down the glass and hang sideways. They also have a very wide area with no tentacles around the mouth. These things could be caused by the high amount of feedings they get, but not climbing towards the light happens even when I'm slacking on feeding.

Here is a pic of how they have positioned themselves. There is a little brown mag on top of the rock now, but I just placed him there so he isn't the cause of their positioning.
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/FlightyMail/CutMagnifica/photo#5237458553492163650"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/FlightyMail/SK8wzh67TEI/AAAAAAAAD3k/QZAc6C1neyU/s400/DSC02072.JPG" /></a>

Here is a shot from the other side
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/FlightyMail/CutMagnifica/photo#5237458580160467586"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/FlightyMail/SK8w1FRJUoI/AAAAAAAAD30/pzcTzoM0Rp0/s400/DSC02071.JPG" /></a>

People ask why I use those strange vases - it is because my fish love hanging out under the anemones. Rock piles take up so much swimming room and this makes a primo hang out for the fish. Normally with an anemone that perches at the top, I can use the vase upsidedown, so there is just a small top that is hidden by the anemone and I can let corals grow on the base. These guys seem to want a little more room so I flipped it large side up and gave them a rock to foot on if they want to. It looks pretty ugly this way, so I think I'll switch to some sort of rock pile if they continue to not want to climb.

Here is proof of the hangout's effectiveness (Ya, I know the horse is a little skinny, we just got back from vacation and she didn't take the reduced feedings well. I'll have here fattened up again in a few days)
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/FlightyMail/CutMagnifica/photo#5237458544739661394"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/FlightyMail/SK8wzBUKtlI/AAAAAAAAD3c/5-BMpqa02hE/s400/DSC02084.JPG" /></a>
 
They did much better eating today. Their first meal after the cut took more than an hour and a half to get into the mouth completely. This time it only took 15 min or so and they seem much more responsive and sticky. I wonder if I waited too long for feeding them.
 
I was the one who bought that beautiful mag on LiveAquaria last week. So far it is doing really well.

However, I also purchased a green haddoni at the same time, which is NOT doing so well. They are in a dedicated 60 gallon cube which is tied into my 180's sump, for total of around 320 gallons. I may have to take the haddoni out and put it in my 180, which I didn't want to do.

I have a tank cam set up for those interested, but it only looks good when the halides are on.

http://reeftank1.viewnetcam.com:50000

user=reefsanctuary
pass=percula

I agree 100% with your mentality. The hobby really needs to progress with our understanding of keeping these critters. I wish you so much luck with the healing process.

Now, how about sharing all the details about how you keep these guys, i.e. lighting, feeding, flow, etc.
 
Nice work.
I have two magnificas that are almost 8 years old.
One split into 3 about a year ago on its own, the other one is a bit over 3' in diameter.
Looks like I'll be taking the scissors to one of the clones.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13203789#post13203789 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Flighty
see if they acclimate to local reefers tanks as well as I anticipate.

I'm a local :D :wavehand: I'd love to participate in your experiment. Anyway... super guts'y move, I applaud you. We would never get anywhere in the hobby if people were to scared to take risks.
 
They seem great. new tentacles are growing at the healed up site and they have the bright white distinct tips that the whole anemone had when I got it. Not much more to report.
 
Ok, Here is a pic of one of them this morning. It is hard to get the shot because of the way the morning sun comes in, but they are just so darn cute when they do this
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/SZ2YSXVN1l4ekSx1f6E_Lw"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/FlightyMail/SNECi_CcTFI/AAAAAAAAD7I/pG3CujMWmQU/s400/DSC02207.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/FlightyMail/MagnificentMagnifica">magnificent magnifica</a></td></tr></table>

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Well my tank is definately suffering from summer neglect, so insted of breaking out the scraper like I should, I'll post a couple of older shots :)

These are before I cut it when I was trying to get it to move off of a pot and onto the glass vase.
Side:
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/RiXSXdukjufhXsF9GWAMXg"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/FlightyMail/SNFDg_kYGSI/AAAAAAAAD7s/KMGaWlCgyKM/s800/DSC01342.JPG" /></a>

end on shot. The reflection is making the tank look much bigger than it is
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Another of that same side.
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