Freakin Green Chromis

Update... 6th day of metro treatment (w 50% water changes every day just prior to redosing the medicine), and both fish look clean and well. The first couple days of metro, the dosage was low. By the third day I was treating with full dosage as recommended by snorvich. So a total of four full-strength doses and two lower doses... Going to do another water change now, dose again, then maybe one last dose tomorrow, and if they're still looking good on Wednesday, move them back into my 35g QT, where they'll stay until I return from out of town on the 18th.

Does this sound like a good plan? I think the metro is working. Don't want to stop using it too soon, but it seems like 5 days at full strength should be plenty, right?
 
My concern with putting them back in the DT so soon is reinfection. The fallow period for Brook is 6 weeks, but Uronema is an opportunistic parasite which does not require a fish host to survive. So, a healthy immune system (which I'm not so sure your gramma & goby have right now) is the only thing keeping uronema at bay. They would probably benefit from more time in QT, away from attacking parasites. But I also understand having to work within time constraints, so it's sort of a quagmire. Did no one tell you that you're not allowed to take vacations once you own a s/w aquarium? ;)
 
HumbleFish said:
Ah gotcha. Have either of these fish ever been in the 35gal QT before (and possibly intimated it with Brook or Uronema)?
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35g QT is where they were originally - when I got them from Live Aquaria about 8 weeks ago - but the 35g has been empty and dry for over a week now. Do you think I should just put the fish into my DT?
 
I wouldn't put them in your DT until you are sure they are "cured" of all diseases. You've patiently waited 4 months now to have a disease free DT... I wouldn't want to see you put that in jeopardy and have to go fallow again.

The 35gal QT... how difficult would it be to clean & sanitize it? Can you just take it outside and wipe it down with a mild bleach solution? Is the reason you're wanting to transfer them to the 35 gal QT to give your pet sitter more wiggle room when it comes to ammonia?
 
Yeah, just figured having more room would be better for them, and yes, in a 35g wouldn't have to worry about ammonia. They will only get fed probably once while we're away, so I doubt there'd be any chance of it anyway... Wouldn't the tank being completely dry sufficiently sterilize it? I know that's sufficient to kill crypto. Is it really possible brook/uronema could live in a dry tank for a week?
 
Are we talking 100% dry? No sand or bio-media left behind in the tank? No little puddles of water? ;)

These fish are only gonna get fed once? How long will you be gone? I mean, normally it might not be a big deal for healthy fish in a DT with rock to graze on. But these fish are sick/have weakened immune systems, and it sounds like will be in a barebottom QT.
 
Everything was taken out of the tank, and soaked in hot water. It was wiped down with a towel and has sat completely dry since. I just looked inside and I do see some condensation that appears to have formed under the glass bracing on the bottom seam of the tank (see pic). But that stuff is sandwiched between two pieces of glass on the bottom of the tank and surrounded by silicone. No way I could dry that out if I tried. Could brook/uronema be living in there???

We'll be gone for one week. Plan was to have my friend come by right in the middle and feed. So they'd go 3 days with no food, then 2 days. Or the other way around.
 

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OK, how about this... Since I guess I will need to wait for that condensation in the seams to evaporate (which could take a long time) before putting fish in the 35g again, and since I probably shouldn't leave the fish in the 10g for a week, maybe I should give them one formalin dip to be absolutely sure they have no parasites on them and then drop them into the DT? As I mentioned, these two fish never showed any signs of having brook or uronema, so I was essentially just treating the water to rid my QT tank of it. They're still looking clean, so I'd say they probably don't have anything on them. I know... I can only say "probably."

I guess my only other alternative is to go out and buy a brand new 30g or something. Ugh.
 
I know I'm being all nit picky, but with ich it takes 1 hr of exposure at 40C (104F) to completely kill all the tomonts & theronts. I got this info from Yanong's writeup, "Table 2. Methods for disinfection of Cryptocaryon irritans life stages." (see link below) - But since we don't know enough about the life stage of brook/uronema, then IMO we just have to go with the available info on ich.

That being said, if you've left this tank completely dry for over a week now, you should be good. Drying is a good sterilization process. I only let my QTs dry for 3 days in-between TT (after a thorough vinegar wipe down). This other water you're talking about... it doesn't sound like it's able to come into contact with the "tank water" in any way, so you should be good there as well.

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/fa164
 
Well, I appreciate your nit pickiness! Yes, the tank has been bone dry for a week now. How about if I give it a vinegar wipe down right now, and then fill it with freshwater, drain it, dry it again and let it sit till tomorrow?

Yes, the condensation shouldn't be coming into contact with tank water, so I imagine it's just ambient water - not salt water. If it were, I'd likely be seeing the tank leaking... The seams all feel secure on it.
 
Itchy Trigger said:
maybe I should give them one formalin dip to be absolutely sure they have no parasites on them and then drop them into the DT?
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Formalin dip does nothing for ich, and will not completely eradicate flukes, as the eggs are unaffected by formalin (same as with Prazipro). I only mention ich & flukes because they are the two most common "unseen diseases" we QT & prophylactically treat for.
 
But we're not talking about ich, we're talking about brook/uronema. I know there's no ich in the tank, as I did tank transfer.
 
I did treat with Prazipro. Honestly can't remember if I did it twice. I may have. The stress of all this has caused my mind to haze over a bit. In any case, wouldn't I have seen evidence of flukes within 8 weeks?
 
Itchy Trigger said:
I did treat with Prazipro. Honestly can't remember if I did it twice. I may have. The stress of all this has caused my mind to haze over a bit. In any case, wouldn't I have seen evidence of flukes within 8 weeks?
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You should have noticed head twitching, rubbing (targeting the gills).
 
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