Genesis Reef Renew System review - automatic water changer

pascal32

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Last year I helped a friend build the reef system he has always wanted. When we sat down to figure out what he wanted it was pretty simple - a 180 in the basement and a 240 upstairs, oh and it should pretty much run itself. There were a lot more items on the list, but you get the idea - he wanted to spend his time enjoying the system and not maintaining it.

Water changes were a big item - they should be made as easy as possible. So i discovered Genesis Reef Systems and a fellow named Kevin. His flagship product is the Genesis Renew system - a dedicated system made to change water for you while you work, sleep and enjoy your tank.

The concept is to change one gallon of water at a time over a duration of fast as possible, a day, or a week. The idea of continuous water changes has been around for a while and is discussed in this article by Randy: http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-10/rhf/index.php#13 In this article he estimates that a continuous water change of 30% matches a batch change of 26% with the benefit that the introduction of changed water is more gently on the life in the tank. The gently exchange of water also has the perk of not having to heat the water (at least not for my friends 450 gallon system and my 250 system) - with a gallon at a time the water temp doesn't budge.

After some conversations with Kevin we decided to give the renew pro system a try. We also got the storm, I'll do that review another time, also a great piece of equipment. I unfortunately don't have one so i need to go over to my friends house for pictures

The unit showed up well packaged with lengthy, but comprehensive instructions. To scale templates were included to make mounting things easier. everything was labeled making plugging things in straight forward.

The head unit has a solid feel to it with good quality buttons which provide a great response.

There are two metering reservoirs used to measure 1 gallon of water each - one old tank water, and one fresh mix. The reservoirs are well made and have a removable top allowing access to the internal float switches.

The system included two pumps, which for this application were tailored to have one larger pump (discussed later).

The float switch brackets are pure genius - a cube with a sliding plate which doubles as a bracket or a float switch holder. The best part is the "extension" used can be replaced with standard 1/2" PVC which makes placing floats in large reservoirs much easier.

summary: the system has been running EXTREMELY well for about 8-10 months or so. There was a firmware update which Kevin applied for free that resolved a couple small issues which you would need to work hard to make happen. From day on Kevin at Genesis has been FANTASTIC - he answers e-mail very quickly, answers the phone for questions, an is always courteous. After using this i can't imagine any other way - this just works. no calibrating pumps to match - it just works. The system has been rock stable - no crashes or anything of the sort.

Earlier this year I had to work 14 hours a day 7 days a week for over a moth - if it wasn't for the renew i probably wouldn't have done any water changes out of pure exhaustion.

The Pro system (all the bells and whistles) including pumps is $499 - after using this I must say it is worth every penny!

Changes I would like to see:

The system monitors the levels of the holding containers, it would be great to have an output to connect to an RKE or APEX to let me know. My RKE text messages me if anything happens - it would be great to have this connected. I would say the price, but honestly it has been worth every penny and the build quality is fantastic.

*** note the pictures are from my system, after seeing my buddy's in action I had to have one!

head unit:

green button - select between continuous (water change the selected amount back to back until complete), one day period, or one week period - it does the math for you and spreads out the water changes.

yellow button - has LEDs around it providing status of the water change. the button can be used to suspend or cancel the water change

screen with gallons to change - use the up and down buttons to select the number of gallons from 1-99

lower left - sump status - indicates the water level in the sump along with the dual float switches in the old water metering reservoir.

lower right - replacement status - indicates the water level in the replacement water holder along with the dual float switches in the replacement water metering reservoir

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all the ports are nicely labeled:
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metering reservoirs - two identical units.

there are three hose connections - one pushes water into the reservoir, one drain for when the reservoir is full, and one to drain the bucket to it's destination. The overflow tube should run back to where the reservoir is being filled from.

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The pro model has two float switches on the inside.
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with back cover removed:
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float switch brackets:

these are harder to describe. the picture below shows one assembled and one in pieces. The picture afterwards shows how you can mount them to each other (great way to mount dual ATO switches!)

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pumps:

Genesis use ehiem and quite one pumps - both my friend and I have the quiteone pumps and i have been very happy with them. They work well, are quite, start reliably, include hose barbs, and are easy to clean (no tools)

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setup:

gravity is your friend. the reservoirs have a drain line, one goes to your sump, the other down the drain (or directly to the plumbing). The key is to have the reservoirs higher than where they are going. In the case of both system i put this on I had to cross over a room, for this i mounted the respective reservoir onto a ceiling joist so that it could drain to the other side of the room - to do this you need a larger pump than the standard pump with the unit. If you decide to try this (over the ceiling) yourself you will need to order an extension for the wire going to the reservoir.

here is a picture (straight from the genesis site):

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templates:

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When i first set this up on my tank I had both reservoirs mounted to a wooden backer which I anchored to the concrete wall. excuse the power strip, I was eager to get things running and didn't have time to run electric. The reservoir shown is the pre-mix with a float switch letting the renew system know if there is water left. notice the 1/2" PVC allowing the float switch to go where it needs to be:

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A while later I moved the drain reservoir into the ceiling (thank the original builder for the wiring mess up there):

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The pre-mix had a powerhead added along with a pump allowing me to direct transfer pre-mix into the sump for when i siphon clean the sand bed. There is a also a heater which I only use when I'm refilling after siphoning the sand bed. The large tube going in is how I transfer from the mixing reservoir on the opposite side of the room into the premix holding reservoir. The tube going across is the ATO. This is the messiest part of my system, partly because I had nowhere to fit it other than in-between the water heater and furnace and there is a just a lot going on there.

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Here is the sump with the float switches on the genesis brackets. the Renew with is towards the back, the front is the future home of a safety that shuts the return pump down for 5 minutes if the water level is too low.

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My experience has been great. I attribute part of my reefing success to making water changes easy.

happy reefing!
 
Thanks bud i am lookin at gettin this combo unit but would have to mount it in my ceiling also. I am glad u posted this. Thanks again.
 
The ceiling mount is easy to do, go with a larger pump that can provide 1GPM at 8 feet or so (Mag 3 will do it), pre-install the two screws that hold the reservoir onto a small wooden board, and then mount to the ceiling without the reservoir, lastly just hang on the joint.

Genesis has tubing at any length you need and the cord extension which is very reasonably priced. I've been ordering most of my vinyl tubing from genesis - much better quality than what is at lowes.

I drain into a sink in the basement, at my buddies house I tapped into the plumbing for a cleaner install.
 
Sweet deal blurry i am drawing up my design now. Do they sell extension wires for all of the aspects? Like the resivoir sensors? I see them on the sight for the doubles which i think go in the tank and storage but is the resivoir just a single?
 
yes, Genesis has extensions for everything. the reservoirs have a 4 pin connector which I believe is also used to dual float switches. There is also a single float switch extension. For my buddy's system the float switch run is around 30 feet - Kevin made custom cables for us.

Once you have everything figured out send Kevin an e-mail to double check things - I bounced a couple ideas around before pulling the trigger on the purchase.
 
I bought the entire pro system but its all still in boxes waiting for me to set up my 180.Really happy to see one in use here.I may need to ask you questions when I'm setting all this gear up!
 
Prior to getting things running you should check to make sure you have the latest firmware loaded, if not touch base with Kevin to have everything updated. here is the e-mail he sent me:

The RENEW's current firmware version is v1.3, and the STORM's is v1.5. You can find out which version is installed on your systems by turning the power off, then pressing and holding the yellow button while turning the power back on. The firmware version will display, or if no firmware version is displayed they have old firmware prior to this display feature and are not the most recent.
 
Great post. I too have the pro system sitting in the box still. It is also going to be for my 180 in-wall build that im starting. this was the third thing i got after 6 stage RO/DI and the Apex.
 
How cool that people are doing 180 tanks and getting the same gear! I have to drag my boxes out from the basement to check if I have the latest firmware but we are renovating the room where the tank will be so it might be a week till I can check.Thanks very much for the heads up!
 
Its very nice to see such positive reviews of this awc system. I will be ordering tomorrow for my 65 sps dom tank which I am currently in the process of building.

I had a very long and detailed conversation with Kevin on Friday and I have to say he was so helpful and understanding. I couldnt have been happier with my decision to buy this from him.

I really hope its as easy to set up as people say it is. I will have to wait to see though, I too will be leaving it in a box until I get that far in the set up. I am currently waiting for my sump to arrive, after that it "should" be smooth sailing.
 
So could you put this unit over the washing machine that is in the garage sorry no basement here. That way I could drain the water in washing machine drain. So I would need two peri pumps one for the exhaust and one for the return Place my mixing trash can for the new SW somewhere else. So as fast as my pumps can pump I can do water changes. So I have a 120 tank, so I would need about 3 gallon a day peir pump. Hope I made this clear.
 
I think I understand and that should work with the washer drain. I would call/email Kevin, hes great help and willing to answer all of your questions.

I placed my order today over the phone and he was very helpful.
 
So could you put this unit over the washing machine that is in the garage sorry no basement here. That way I could drain the water in washing machine drain. So I would need two peri pumps one for the exhaust and one for the return Place my mixing trash can for the new SW somewhere else. So as fast as my pumps can pump I can do water changes. So I have a 120 tank, so I would need about 3 gallon a day peir pump. Hope I made this clear.

Tha should work. I would put a wye at the top with a hose barb, but you probably don't have to. The other easy option is to get a PVC piece that glues to the outside for an existing PVC pipe, glue it on, drill a hole through it (that's how they are made to work) and put a hose barb on. It sounds hard, but it's not.

Keep in mind that you need to drain down from the reservoir which means the higher you drain, the higher you have to mount which might push you to a bigger pump.
 
After doing a mountain of research I felt that the Genesis/Storm system was the best there is. So I bought one and had Kevin send it to Australia for me....even though this needed me to set-up a seperate 120 Volt system in my fish room, because our native Voltage is 220.

I am not sure if it is oficially recommended, but I used a solenoid instead of a pump so that I could top-off directly from my RODI unit, saves a pump and a reservoir.

It is a very classy piece of equipment, very much impressed with it.
 
if i understand correctly the price of this "gizmo" is around $500 ?or is there more stuff to get ? if so i will be subscribing very soon and may need a hand pascal as i'm in the middle of installing a new tank in my living room . much of it is still in the planning stages as i have the tank and lights but still have to remove two tanks and deal with getting the dry rock adhered to the back of the tank .
 
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