Genicanthus males - your experiences?

Well, it's been a couple months since adding a tiny female, and here is the old female! I'm actually shocked how similar she looks to the original male, even down to the dark blue all-over shading...

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Well, it's been a couple months since adding a tiny female, and here is the old female! I'm actually shocked how similar she looks to the original male, even down to the dark blue all-over shading...
very, very nice...I may have to remove my dominate Bellus M, so that 1 of my 3 F swallowtails will turn male!
 
Thanks! Unfortunately I don't have many pics. Because I kept her in an acclimation box, which was pretty dirty, during the majority of the transition (which happened VERY fast) and for the remainder of the time she had really bad pop eye in one eye, so I never took any pics. These are the only ones I have...

Just before the change (notice the streamers on the tail already getting longer)
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Here she is in the acclimation box for a timeout, almost all the yellow on the top is gone, and the stripes are JUST starting to show
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Pretty much fully changed here... the stripes are still filling in:
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And the new female:
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Wow, I'm pretty excited. I just got a swallowtail pair and a female mashed swallowtail this weekend. The three gets along pretty well. The male is huge and looks exactly like your photo, with long streamer.

The only issue is, I getting a trio bellus next week. The male is slightly smaller than the swallowtail male. My concern is, would they fight for dominance? Or would the smaller male just turn into female?
 
The only issue is, I getting a trio bellus next week. The male is slightly smaller than the swallowtail male. My concern is, would they fight for dominance? Or would the smaller male just turn into female?
IMO...you will have 3 F bellus
 
Gorgeous fish!!

Thank you.

Update: Since removing the pair of yellow longnose butterflies, I went ahead and added a second female swallowtail. This one is smaller than the male, but larger that the first female. All three have been getting along just fine. I love watching them interact with each other!!
 
Dr.Doolittle male shallowtail angel is really nice
Also a Male masked shallowtail are very rare and very colorful.
Only If I can make my large female eat:(
 
Lawrance, the male video I sent you was regular not mask, the female was mask.

I'll try to post the video this week.

Yeah got that
I almost got few more masked but the one I have hasn't eat well yet so I restrain myself .

So far I try mysis, brine, clams, mussels, pellets and Caulerpa no lucks
I will get live brine and Masago today if not I will be forced to tube feeding it in the next few days using a syringe and tiny silicone flexible needles.
 
I have been looking for a pair myself but it looks like its impossible to find it. I looked in my LFs and online and nobody has them. If i buy two females will one change eventually to male??
 
I usually try to buy female wrasses and angels... soon enough they turn to pairs/males
 
Not only the color issue, but adding a male to an established female may not go so well, either.

SDguy,

I dug up this old thread when researching the prospect of pairing my female swallowtail with a male. Needless to say this has helped me understand things alot better than before, so thankyou :D

I think I might get the male and put him in QT, catch the female out of my DT (not hard) and drop her in the QT with the male and keep a close eye on them for a few hours. I'm worried that my female may be one of those "males in disguise". If it doesn't work and the female goes nuts on the male, both of them will be headed back to the LFS and I will just wait on getting a pair of them through the wholesaler. It just seems like a pity to get rid of my gorgeus and personable female :(
 
Hey everyone sorry to revive this but wanted to ask about introduction of Bellus angels to a tank... Would it be OK to introduce the female first and let her acclimate until I can find a male to pair with? The reason I ask is I can get the female pretty much anytime, but males apparently are very difficult to come by here and I might be waiting a long while if I purchase them both together. Also wondering if $90 is a reasonable price for a healthy bellus female. What do you guys think?
 
SDguy,

I dug up this old thread when researching the prospect of pairing my female swallowtail with a male. Needless to say this has helped me understand things alot better than before, so thankyou :D

I think I might get the male and put him in QT, catch the female out of my DT (not hard) and drop her in the QT with the male and keep a close eye on them for a few hours. I'm worried that my female may be one of those "males in disguise". If it doesn't work and the female goes nuts on the male, both of them will be headed back to the LFS and I will just wait on getting a pair of them through the wholesaler. It just seems like a pity to get rid of my gorgeus and personable female :(

So get another female...
 
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