Geoff’s 380G/190G dual Reef/FOWLR systems

gws294

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Geoff’s 380G/190G dual Reef/FOWLR systems

After studying large tanks on this forum for the last 9 months, I’ve started my build. Reefers like Sanjay, Sidewinder, the Ben’s Big Bertha tank, Marc’s plywood tank and exquisite fish room, the plexi work of Melev and his great web site…..man I could go on and on. This forum is filled with the knowledge and hard work of many great reefers. Now I hope that I can ask all of you for your input about my project.
For the past 2 ½ years I’ve had a 3-tank common sump system consisting of a 72 G bowfront main display, a 50G FOWLR specializing in Centropyge angels, and a 20 G “nano”/ misc tank for other projects. I’ve come to the realization that I need to separate the tanks, and go bigger. So here are my plans so far.

SPS Reef System
220G (72x30x24) Main (30x turnover rate: 4500 GPH internal, 2000 GPH external)
50G (48x24x10) Frag (1000 GPH internal, 250G external)
70G (48x24x16) Combination Sump (2000GPH bypass, 250 GPH refugium) (melev-type)
35G (35x16x21) Mixing Tank (inline for normal usage: bypassed for salt mixing) (Sidewinder-type)

Other Features
• Manifold System for remote positioning of media reactors and other accessories. Goal: keep equipment at bench top level due to back problems (working under stand is tough)
• Main display located in bedroom, all other equipment in adjacent office/fish room. Noise and skimmer to be located OUT of tank room per mermaid
• Stand and hood built from 2”x2” and 1.5”x 1.5” steel
• Frag tank located under main display, in stand

Unresolved Issues/strategies
• Balling Method vs. Zeovit vs. media reactors for saltwater component monitor and control???
• Pumps and plumbing sizes
• Vendor for main tank



FOWLR System
120G (48x24x24) Main Tank (30x turnover rate: 2400 GPH Internal, 1200 GPH external)
40G (30x24x16) Combination Sump (2000GPH bypass, 250 GPH refugium) (melev-type)
35G (35x16x21) Mixing Tank (inline for normal usage: bypassed for salt mixing) (Sidewinder-type)

Other Features
• Completely separate from Reef System, except for RO/DI and Drain systems
• No unresolved issues on this system

As a final note, all of the equipment will be located in an adjacent room. I have an 8 ½ foot wall space for everything other that the main display and frag tank. Therefore, I am building two 4-foot cabinets with overhead storage (like a stand with hood) out of 1”x1” steel. The units are bolted to larger upright square steel. This is so they can be assembled in the room. The fronts will be skinned with an appropriate wood and the counter top will be solid surface. The schematic of the plumbing listed below is configured along these lines and using your imagination, hopefully will convey the layout. The sketchup diagram will also shop this arrangement.

In closing, I never cease to be amazed at the creativity and experiences of the members of this forum. I look forward to your input and hope that I am worthy of joining this crowd.
 
Visio schematic of new system

Visio schematic of new system

380GalSystemLayout-2.jpg
 
Detailed view of schematic

Detailed view of schematic

For those techno geeks who really want to see the detail of the system schematic, I have attached a PDF file which shows the drawing in much greater detail
 

Attachments

This is definitely one to watch! Awesome.


<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9025559#post9025559 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Von_Rahvin
good lord man that's amazing. let me guess your an engineer?? ;)

I think he's a teeth engineer. :D
 
Geoff, I was waiting for your thread. Glad to see its finally up. For the Visio diagram, where did you get the stencils for the equipment (RO containers, dosing pumps, etc)? thanks
 
Thanks for all of the kind comments. I'm rather new at the intracacies of posting, so please bear with me. I'm not sure how to pull a quote from someone elses comments, please advise.

kennyboy... we are ready to blast off!! LOL

invincible... I used the editing features in Visio to create the components myself. It isn't too difficult. I zoom in really close, and then am able to draw the lines one at a time to create the shapes. Once each individual shape is created, I group it and then copy as necessary. I'd be glad to send you a copy of the file if you'd like.


WELL... today the steel was completed for the base and overhead cabinets. I packed it up and it was off to the powder coater. I had my mind set on going with white like sidewinder did, but the painter said that the white didn't cover well, so I picked a satin black. It should still look OK.

CabinetFrames.jpg




LoadingCabinetFrames.jpg



Next on the list is to start cutting and welding the stand for the tank. ..

More pics to follow.

As always, suggestions appreciated.

Geoff
 
Visio is a Microsoft Office program and can be found for about $55 (academic pricing), and Sketchup is owned by Google, and is free off the internet. Search for Sketchup download and follow the directions.

You'll like both programs
 
Pump Selection for main tank

Pump Selection for main tank

Does anyone have any suggestions for a main return pump. I was figuring that for the 220G tank, I would need about 10% (of tank volumn) flow on the return and 20% (of volumn) flow coming from either closed loops or Tunzes. That would provide about 30% total flow in the tank.

Are these numbers what I should be shooting for?
If so, what pump do you suggest?

Thanks as always, :D

Geoff
 
I've been admiring Geoff's schematic's for awhile now. I still can't imagine how much work went into those two plans.

I'm really looking forward to following this thread.

Looks like the welding turned out great. Nice start.
 
Hex,
Thanks... Sunday I started welding up the 2" square for the main tank stand... got half way through and ran out of wire in the MIG... Bummer. Anyway, heading out of town for a couple of days, but hope to have tank stand finished by next weekend.

Any thoughts from anyone on two topics...
1) Main return pump???
2) Vendor for starfire glass tank.


Thanks as always,
Geoff
 
:D :D :D
WELCOME to Reef Central


Your son must be very impressed that you registered and figured all of this stuff out.....
Thanks
G
 
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