Getting that color??
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allsps40
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dudlo8 thanks for the info. The AAs I use have Vit C in it already so. I do feed flake but not very offten. Lets put it this way I have had the same bottle of flakes for over 3 years lol. I feed mostly frozen the flake is for when I have no time to feed. Its their fast food. I would also like to take you up on you photo offer, that would be great. I also enjoy getting together with fellow reefers. We will need to show off our tanks and maybe frag swap. I will send you a PM.
jdkos what is your total system gallons?? No brand does not matter, I got the cheapest triple distilled vodka I could find. Also do you have a skimmer, it is NEEDED for vodka dosing.
jdkos what is your total system gallons?? No brand does not matter, I got the cheapest triple distilled vodka I could find. Also do you have a skimmer, it is NEEDED for vodka dosing.
I would estimate my total water volume to be right at 15 gallons. I have a Aquamaxx HOB-1 skimmer that has been working pretty well.
allsps40
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Yeah i would say start with 1 drop daily. If you are not using MB7 start that for a week before the vodka. If you have not read it already then read the vodka how to on Reef Keeping. It will give you a guide line to follow. I had issue when I followed the dosage that was recommended though so start slow.
allsps40
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I rented an Apogee meter to test out the Oddysea 250w bulb. I have been really wondering what this bulb puts out. I will be testing here soon and will post up results. I hope I can figure out how to edit a FTS with the numbers in it. I also FINALLY got a new RO membrane, I have been needing one for a long time.
allsps40
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OK here it tis Oddysea 250w MH PAR reading run on Icecap ballast in a Reef Optics3 pendant. Not bad but I was hoping for a little better. I may go back to Phoenix 14 I will see if I have my old one to test. Readings taken with all pumps and power heads on.
Hope you can see it ok
The top reading is right under the lights glass. You cant really ready it clearly but it is 2,850. It drops big time once the light goes threw the water.
Hope you can see it ok
The top reading is right under the lights glass. You cant really ready it clearly but it is 2,850. It drops big time once the light goes threw the water.
allsps40
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Ok here is the Phoenix 14k bulb also about 3 months old. All readings take at same locations in the tank.
Right at the light 2,888
top 180
mid 178
bottom 123
left mid 156
right mid 158
Not a huge difference in the PAR numbers. Maybe I should lower my light?? It is 12 inches above the water.
Right at the light 2,888
top 180
mid 178
bottom 123
left mid 156
right mid 158
Not a huge difference in the PAR numbers. Maybe I should lower my light?? It is 12 inches above the water.
smtank
New member
The initial post was back in Sept. 2010 and it appears that sps still have issues with coloration. At first I thought you needed more nutrients, but you posted you are now feeding Rods. I am puzzled by the lighting issue. My lighting is a 150w/20k Radium on a 28 gal tank and coloration (knock on wood) is not an issue, the previous bulb was a Phoenix with no issues either. How is the PE on the corals? Have you checked throughly for RB? (Pretty sure we frequent the same LFS, Tucson area, and I ended up with them)
Just for the heck of it, I would frag a couple pieces put them in a friends tank and see how they color up, might see some interesting results.
Just for the heck of it, I would frag a couple pieces put them in a friends tank and see how they color up, might see some interesting results.
sahin
Ultimate Reefer
I am stumped. I've been following this thread from the start and thought by now the issue would have been resolved.
So far you have:
1. Tried to lower the nutrient level and that has not worked.
AND
2. Added foods/supplements to provide the corals more nutrients.
But its not worked. Your corals still look very pale or rather, bleached looking.
I have some questions:
LIGHT:
1. Did you buy your light unit brand new?
2. Did you ever replace the glass cover?
I am wondering if the light unit has an improper glass cover and letting too much UV through?
CONTAMINENT:
1. Have you tested your tank for copper?
Maybe you worked with electrical wires and dropped a short strand into the tank? I did that in one of my old tanks. I found the piece of wire many months later.
2. Did you buy the rocks from another reefkeeper?
3. Anything else you can think of?
If you are sure there is no issues with any of the above, can I suggest that you buy a new light unit? I would go with a 4 or 6 tube T5 unit and see how that works out. I realise it will cost a bit of money, but end of the day SPS keepers keep these corals for the colour. And if your corals are not getting any colour then something else has to be looked at.
Maybe pick up a used T5 unit and keep your halide, and only sell it if the T5 unit works out.
I dont know dude, I hope it gets better. I'd change my lighting if it were me.
Good luck and keep updating whatever route you take.
So far you have:
1. Tried to lower the nutrient level and that has not worked.
AND
2. Added foods/supplements to provide the corals more nutrients.
But its not worked. Your corals still look very pale or rather, bleached looking.
I have some questions:
LIGHT:
1. Did you buy your light unit brand new?
2. Did you ever replace the glass cover?
I am wondering if the light unit has an improper glass cover and letting too much UV through?
CONTAMINENT:
1. Have you tested your tank for copper?
Maybe you worked with electrical wires and dropped a short strand into the tank? I did that in one of my old tanks. I found the piece of wire many months later.
2. Did you buy the rocks from another reefkeeper?
3. Anything else you can think of?
If you are sure there is no issues with any of the above, can I suggest that you buy a new light unit? I would go with a 4 or 6 tube T5 unit and see how that works out. I realise it will cost a bit of money, but end of the day SPS keepers keep these corals for the colour. And if your corals are not getting any colour then something else has to be looked at.
Maybe pick up a used T5 unit and keep your halide, and only sell it if the T5 unit works out.
I dont know dude, I hope it gets better. I'd change my lighting if it were me.
Good luck and keep updating whatever route you take.
smtank
New member
Definitely look at the lighting. The growth pattern to your sps in not normal either, almost looks like they are running away from the lighting in they way they are growing. One coral I could understand but they all seem to look that way. The lps look like they are suffering as well.
allsps40
New member
PE is great. my corals look much more colorful in person but they are not all the way there yet. I will hopefully having a local reefer come take some pics. He is a photographer so pics will be really good. If that falls through then I will borrow a good camera to take some pics.
allsps40
New member
I have some questions:
LIGHT:
1. Did you buy your light unit brand new?
2. Did you ever replace the glass cover?
No bought if off a local reefer. Has the original UV glass cover.
I am wondering if the light unit has an improper glass cover and letting too much UV through?
CONTAMINENT:
1. Have you tested your tank for copper?
Maybe you worked with electrical wires and dropped a short strand into the tank? I did that in one of my old tanks. I found the piece of wire many months later.
No copper could have gotten in the tank. I built the set up myself with new equipment.
2. Did you buy the rocks from another reefkeeper?
Got the LR from a LFS that I worked at, picked the choice stuff. Had the rock in this tank only since day 1 tank is 3 years old.
3. Anything else you can think of?
No nothing else
If you are sure there is no issues with any of the above, can I suggest that you buy a new light unit? I would go with a 4 or 6 tube T5 unit and see how that works out. I realise it will cost a bit of money, but end of the day SPS keepers keep these corals for the colour. And if your corals are not getting any colour then something else has to be looked at.
Maybe pick up a used T5 unit and keep your halide, and only sell it if the T5 unit works out.
I dont know dude, I hope it gets better. I'd change my lighting if it were me.
Good luck and keep updating whatever route you take.[/QUOTE]
LIGHT:
1. Did you buy your light unit brand new?
2. Did you ever replace the glass cover?
No bought if off a local reefer. Has the original UV glass cover.
I am wondering if the light unit has an improper glass cover and letting too much UV through?
CONTAMINENT:
1. Have you tested your tank for copper?
Maybe you worked with electrical wires and dropped a short strand into the tank? I did that in one of my old tanks. I found the piece of wire many months later.
No copper could have gotten in the tank. I built the set up myself with new equipment.
2. Did you buy the rocks from another reefkeeper?
Got the LR from a LFS that I worked at, picked the choice stuff. Had the rock in this tank only since day 1 tank is 3 years old.
3. Anything else you can think of?
No nothing else
If you are sure there is no issues with any of the above, can I suggest that you buy a new light unit? I would go with a 4 or 6 tube T5 unit and see how that works out. I realise it will cost a bit of money, but end of the day SPS keepers keep these corals for the colour. And if your corals are not getting any colour then something else has to be looked at.
Maybe pick up a used T5 unit and keep your halide, and only sell it if the T5 unit works out.
I dont know dude, I hope it gets better. I'd change my lighting if it were me.
Good luck and keep updating whatever route you take.[/QUOTE]
allsps40
New member
I think the grow is weird because I have moved the tank and many of the acros around in the past
You got my camera can not adjust to the bright MH light to get a good pic.
I found another issue today. Took water to LFS to check low range po4 and mag the only tests I dont have. Po4 was 0 and mag was 1230. My increased growth has shown the need to a mag supplement finally. So I got some Brightwells liquid mag and Kalk+2 to raise and sup mag. I also picked up another ORA Blue Bottle Brush this one came on a white frag plug, Florida ORA right??
smtank
New member
Congrats on the new acropora.
Makes sense about the coral growth and being moved around. Bringing up the magnesium is an excellent idea.
Hopefully is will turn around for you soon. Looking forward to the new images. A decent camera makes all the difference, I know I struggle with my Cannon PS.
Makes sense about the coral growth and being moved around. Bringing up the magnesium is an excellent idea.
Hopefully is will turn around for you soon. Looking forward to the new images. A decent camera makes all the difference, I know I struggle with my Cannon PS.
