I haven't tried general cure on wrasses but will keep that in mind . As for paraguard, I now have that in my protocol . I actually like it and think it very effective. I add that in the bag before I net them into the tank . Of course it's in a bag from the LFS only. If I ever order online, the fish have to be removed from the shipping bag right away. I can't remember the thread but recommendation was to remove the fish otherwise a sharp increase in pH from fish in shipping bags from online retailers. As for general cure , I haven't had any problems . I have used other forms of praziquantel and metronidazole . Still no issues. I like that GC comes in a powder and maybe more resistant to degradation overtime in a sealed packet . As for the other forms like prazipro , it's in a liquid and I don't know how effective it is over a long storage time when already mixed . As for air stone , I always use in Qt/HT . That is my main source of aeration and cheap too since i don't have to have a water mover in there . I usually have multiple tanks going on.
Gill Flukes that won't go away
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RegalAngel
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20 minute six x dose....ie recommended is 3 ml/gal. So, you did same as 18ml for 20 minutes in a gal?
snuffie381
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No...I meant the dip is six x the quarantine tank dose. I didn't six x the recommended dip dose.
As an update this didn't end up working. I started raising the salinity back to 1.025 in preparation for the second Paragard dip...and they had flukes again. I then thought maybe it was the 1.015 salinity/Paragard combo that worked the first time...also not it. I ordered quick cure and it gets here Monday so I will see if that is going to work.
As an update this didn't end up working. I started raising the salinity back to 1.025 in preparation for the second Paragard dip...and they had flukes again. I then thought maybe it was the 1.015 salinity/Paragard combo that worked the first time...also not it. I ordered quick cure and it gets here Monday so I will see if that is going to work.
I hope I never encounter that species of fluke . So far all the fish I have used paraguard on has killed the flukes. Did u return the fish to the same tank or did u move to a new Ht after the dip. As for clout, I used that on some freshwater corydoras and saw their skin peel away. I had to euthanize them. Not saying not. To use clout but beware some fish don't do well with it . I would think the formalin dip should work but you might have to do it several times.
snuffie381
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I did return the fish to the same tank after the dips, but I was dosing Paragard to that tank as well. Today I'm going to do General Cure and move the fish to a new tank after.
snuffie381
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For Quick Cure the dip dosage is 20 drops per gallon...10x the standard dose? Any idea how long to dip fish specifically for flukes?
snuffie381
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How do I dispose of the Quick Cure dip?
snuffie381
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FW dipped just now and a couple flukes came off. I think I'm just gonna FW dip every day for now as they don't really seem to stress out and redo the Quick Cure(if necessary) in 7 days.
lagatbezan
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I have not use quick cure but have 37% formalin plenty of times before. you would dose 20 drops per gallon and use as a bath for 30-50 min max. Remove the fish if it shows sign of stress. aerate the water heavily before and during the entire bath. after the bath, the fish should be transferred to a new sterile qt. Transfer only the fish and no equipment. Repeat 5-7 days latter.
Try not to breath in formalin. Its a known carcinogenic.
In my experience paraguard has been a total waste of money and failure. Never has worked to resolve any disease or parasite.
Try not to breath in formalin. Its a known carcinogenic.
In my experience paraguard has been a total waste of money and failure. Never has worked to resolve any disease or parasite.
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Lagatbezan . I tried the conc dip of paraguard only for elimination of flukes . Prior to that I was dipping in fw and that seemed to work but the fish always scared me. They showed signs of distress or maybe just I was anxious and didn't want to lose them . So switching to paraguard and using it in the bag for an hour with slight aeration allowed me to eliminate flukes. They haven't showed symptoms of stress. For sure the fish I got had flukes because I saw them scratching at the store . Now I never tried it for other things like ich or velvet.
lagatbezan
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Louis was it a prazi resistant strain of flukes that you used paraguard on and had success with? did you do 5 days of hypo as well prior to treat flukes? if so thats amazing and good to know that it might actually work in this case.
I am following OP Snuffie initial post he said he used cupramine then followed with prazipro. He said he dropped salinity but you recommended lower salinity. He says he still had flukes. My protocol had been to use FW . Then at the suggestion of paraguard conc dosing, I went out and tried it on my fishes flukes and it worked . I haven't personally encountered prazipro resistant flukes . All of my simple methods have always worked when I have transferred the dipped fish to new tanks. They go in flashing and come out fine . I just thought the fish looked less stressed with paraguard.thats why I recommend it now . But my fall back will be 2 to 3 min FW dip. I have been recommending general cure at each new transfer in TTM because it has praziquantel and metronidazole . I want to get rid of protozoan infections and internal worm infections . metro is indicated for protozoan infection in humans . Whether it gets high enough in internal dose to do that - I don't know . I wonder if metro attacks ick in its protozoan swimming stage in the water
snuffie381
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Well it looks like I didn't have the salinity low enough the first time around for hypo. Did it again for one week and still have flukes. The water is about 74 degrees Fahrenheit, and don't know if that was somehow a problem. I also single dosed Prazipro on the second day and General Cure on the third. Prazipro, hypo, Paraguard, Formalin, Prazi times 2, 3 and 4x dose. I just bought Mardel Clout on Ebay for $71. My main tank has been empty since June 26...
Snuffie . Give us an update on what you have done recently . I will have to ask how many fish are affected and what state are they in? Are they eating ok? Tell me again on how you dip with FW or paragaurd . Time in solution? Are you transferring to a different tank after dipping . If you used clout, how have the fish fared?
