Glass or acrylic?

Csubseball

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I just wanted to know everyones thoughts on the two. After my disaster yeserday I am leaning towards acrylic. The misses does not want glass anymore either.
Anyone that has an acrylic please give me insight on how it has been. All I hear is how easy they are to scratch. At this point I would not mind a little scratch over what happened yesterday.
Thanks again everyone for helping me get through yesterday.
 
I finally went acrylic and am happy. Yes it scatches easy. I got some sand under my mag float and before I knew it I had scratches. But there are buffing kits out there. I have read about JBJ acrylic cracking and leaking, so I don't know what is best.

Best advice I have for viewing fish and corals is buy a small island in the caribean!

Good luck!
Seam
 
Sean-
I like your advice. Maybe I will write Bill Gates and see if he can give me a loan. lol.
I have heard that when acrylic scratches you cannot see it unless you are really up close. Is this true?
 
Here is an excerpt from an acrylic aquarium manufacture's website;

Acrylic is half the weight of glass.
It's easier to ship, move, and set up your aquarium.

Acrylic is several times stronger than glass.
It will not shatter, crack, or leak like glass can.

Acrylic distorts much less and is clearer than glass.
If a transparent object is surrounded by another material that has the same index of refraction, then the speed of light will not change as it enters the object. No reflection and no refraction will take place, and the object will appear invisible and without distortion, even at increased viewing angles. In addition to having a slight green tint, glass has an index of refraction that is considerably different from water. Incidentally, clear acrylic plastics have almost the same refractive index as seawater so there is no bending of light as it passes from the plastic into seawater, providing better and brighter color and sharper shapes in acrylic aquariums. The huge viewing windows in large public aquariums and oceanariums can be more than 12 inches thick, but because they are made of acrylic, they afford a very clear view of the water and ocean life they enclose. Acrylic also allows better penetration of your system lighting, which is especially important for reef systems.

Acrylic insulates better than glass.
Acrylic controls water temperature fluctuations, one of the primary reasons for fish stress, disease, and death. Glass conducts heat and cold causing more fluctuations.

Acrylic seams are stronger than glass.
Acrylic seams are molecular bonds and actually stronger than the acrylic itself. Silicone seams used on glass aquariums can dry out and weaken over time.

Acrylic seams are visually superior to glass.
Acrylic seams are polished and nearly invisible. Silicone seams are clearly visible and have been known to discolor when exposed to certain fish medications.

Acrylic is easily refinished.
If glass scratches it can not be repaired. Acrylic can be repaired with a variety of scratch removal kits. Even internal scratches can be repaired without removing the fish or water.

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I have found most of these to be true as long as the tank manufacture uses the right kind of acrylic and doesn't cut any corners to save money. Just make sure you use someone that is reputable, has a history of standing behind their product, and has great customer service.
 
Most scratches in an acrylic tank can't be seen until the tank is empty however as Gary mentioned it depends on how bad the scratch is.
 
Joe- excellent post. Im leaning towards going that route. Like I said before, seeing that crack and niagra falls in my living room was close to the most horrendous thing I have ever witnessed. My stomach dropped! I do understand that acrylic can break too, but I like my odds better.
 
My scratches are very shallow and only visible at 6-8" inches away and looking at an extreme angle down.

I also agree with the insulation aspect. I have a cheap heater and it does fine.

It is also easier to drill if you do a closed loop or decide to add extra flow.

Sean
 
P.S. I really have to watch my cat around the tank, remember it can scratch on the outside too!!!

Sean
 
great info!!!!

great info!!!!

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6841201#post6841201 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jdallred
Here is an excerpt from an acrylic aquarium manufacture's website;

Acrylic is half the weight of glass.
It's easier to ship, move, and set up your aquarium.

Acrylic is several times stronger than glass.
It will not shatter, crack, or leak like glass can.

Acrylic distorts much less and is clearer than glass.
If a transparent object is surrounded by another material that has the same index of refraction, then the speed of light will not change as it enters the object. No reflection and no refraction will take place, and the object will appear invisible and without distortion, even at increased viewing angles. In addition to having a slight green tint, glass has an index of refraction that is considerably different from water. Incidentally, clear acrylic plastics have almost the same refractive index as seawater so there is no bending of light as it passes from the plastic into seawater, providing better and brighter color and sharper shapes in acrylic aquariums. The huge viewing windows in large public aquariums and oceanariums can be more than 12 inches thick, but because they are made of acrylic, they afford a very clear view of the water and ocean life they enclose. Acrylic also allows better penetration of your system lighting, which is especially important for reef systems.

Acrylic insulates better than glass.
Acrylic controls water temperature fluctuations, one of the primary reasons for fish stress, disease, and death. Glass conducts heat and cold causing more fluctuations.

Acrylic seams are stronger than glass.
Acrylic seams are molecular bonds and actually stronger than the acrylic itself. Silicone seams used on glass aquariums can dry out and weaken over time.

Acrylic seams are visually superior to glass.
Acrylic seams are polished and nearly invisible. Silicone seams are clearly visible and have been known to discolor when exposed to certain fish medications.

Acrylic is easily refinished.
If glass scratches it can not be repaired. Acrylic can be repaired with a variety of scratch removal kits. Even internal scratches can be repaired without removing the fish or water.

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I have found most of these to be true as long as the tank manufacture uses the right kind of acrylic and doesn't cut any corners to save money. Just make sure you use someone that is reputable, has a history of standing behind their product, and has great customer service.


WOW!!! This needs to be shown to all that are considering between a acrylic or glass tank!!!

Sean
 
I just setup a 150 a few months ago and I spent lots of time looking at acrylic and glass. I went acrylic for strength and clarity. I never had a tank fail but have seen some stories about it and didn't want to chance 150gallons of water on the floor. I also priced out glass and most cost just as much if not more than my acrylic did. I had the stand, hood and tank made by the same guy and it came out great. If you want you are more than welcome to come by and take a look at my system. I tried so hard not to scratch it at first until I got the first one now I have a few but not enough to make me want to fix it. I think you just need to spend a little more time and be careful and then it's not hard to clean with out scratching. I find that the Kent Mop works great for most cleaning and when I need to remove hard algae I use a old credit card cut to fit in the mop handle. Not sure how people don't see some scratches because I see all of mine LOL but maybe it's because I know from when I put them in. If you are back about a foot or so you don't see them.
 
Not much to add here...I am an acrylic fan.

One thing I learned quickly was to never use a mag float of any kind on acrylic. I use all the algea pads and a kent scraper.
 
I like acyrlic more. Only problem is the scratching.

As far as acyrlic tank manufacturer statement that acylric is stronger than glass, I would say thats a mistatement. Glass should be stronger if it weren't for the seals and the fact that its too brittle. Otherwise we would have fiber acyrlic instead of fiberglass.
 
I had it made by http://acryliccreations.biz He sells on E-Bay but I called my order in and had some things done that are not standard on his aquariums. He is out of AZ and S/H was some of the cheapest I could find. I also looked into www.envisionacrylics.com but his shipping/crate was CRAZY! Called Precision Clarity but they wanted like 4 months to build it and the stand was not all that nice. I am happy I didn't go that way now that I look at the vendor experiences forum. Midwest was one of the others I looked at and they also wanted way too long to build the tank. http://www.aquaticsystemsdesign.com/ had a good price and seems like a great guy but I wanted to get stand and all from one place and he had to get some other guy to make it. I think Calvin415 used him and that's how I found him.
 
I too like acrylic. I have seen far too many glass tank failures to do it. At this point, from 66, 75, 165, 250 and 600 all are acrylic and would not go back. I do like the clarity of starfire but am just too worried about a seam failure. I cannot even imagine a failure on my big tank and how would I even try and hold the livestock.

I was at a manufacturer who specializes in large system and actually saw a shark tank that had failed. I might add it was due to improper construction more than anything. There have been instances of acrylic tanks failing, but rarely do you hear it. As long as the manufacturer is using good stuff with proper thickness....... In my book, a slightly thicker aquarium is worth the few bucks for the comfort factor of long-term tank success.

Kip
 
Everyones opinions have been very helpful. I need to get my new tank by this weekend.
Another concern I have is what about my DSB I plan on having. If I do go acrylic will this work? I have read alot of cons about having sand in this type of tank.
Also, what manufacture should I go through. I just want a standard 125.
Thanks again everyone
 
Eric, what cons have you heard about having a DSB in an acrylic tank?

I have been pleased with the guy who makes the acrylic tanks for Quality Aqua. However before you set it up make sure you know how you want to plumb the thing and do appropriate drilling etc... That is one major advantage over the glass tanks: So easy to customize.
 
Awesome tank MBX!
Brandon- I was reading on another thread that sand will scratch the acrylic when cleaning. I assume that only happens if you are not being careful.
Decisions, decisions!
 
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