Golan's 90G Reef

I got my 29g sump today, and just finished building my 4' table for the sump in the basement. I have ample room under the table for a large rubbermaid garbage can for new salt mix, which I'll have to pump up a few feet into the sump when I'm doing water changes...and add a ball joint I guess from the overflow to drain water when it is time to do so.

As I progress with this I'll post some pictures. Next I'll work on my sump, which will be remarkably like Goolivers. However, I have more of a head, so I'm getting a fairly powerful pump.
 
gooliver: Do you have a stand for your tank? I'm planning on mounting my balasts on the wall in the stand, potentially in a breathable box of some sort. My sump will be in the basement so I'll have plenty of room in the stand under the tank.
 
I have the same setup, although I use a 30G long tank for my sump, its 36 x 12 x 15, I am running the single one inch drain and the 3/4 as a return via a mag 9.5 and I split the return in two with some extra locline.

I also am running a DIY closed loop hanging off the back with a sqwd, you can see this design on www.melevsreef.com in the lower right corner of that page. However I run it with a mag 7. The returns are angled toward the oposing corners of the tank.

Then I have two maxijet 1200's in the front two corners of the display about 4" from the front and 4" from the surface of the water angled toward the bottom/center of the opposite walls. I have zero dead spots in my tank.

All of my pumps are on seperate DJ switches so I can turn them off for feeding/maintenance.

I believe your sump / refuge should be used as a filter supplement to the live sand and rock in your tank, I use it for my fuge and my skimmer as well as my topoff and kalk drip. I turn my water about 6 times an hour, I was up to 10 or 12 times an hour at one point but my skimmer removed only half of what it does today. You don't need major flow through the sump. Just alot of movement in the tank.
 
luckycat said:
gooliver: Do you have a stand for your tank? I'm planning on mounting my balasts on the wall in the stand, potentially in a breathable box of some sort. My sump will be in the basement so I'll have plenty of room in the stand under the tank.


im getting my stand tomorrow...it's supposed to come in around noon and i gotta go pick it up...cant wait :) That's a good idea...i might do the same with the ballasts...the guys at hellolights told me not to put it in the canopy or in the stand...rather put it in the least moist and hot place available.
 
gooliver said:
growyourown....where did you place the intake of the closed loop?

I was doing some reading on another forum and found scwd devices mentioned a lot, a motorless device that oscilaltes a water flow between two outlets. I was thinking perhaps I could throw one of these on the 3/4" return, and redirect the outlet through the two existing ports on the AGA overflow... this vs. the SeaSwirl...

Have you heard of this scwd ("Squid") device? Sells for around $36.
 
growyourown said:

I believe your sump / refuge should be used as a filter supplement to the live sand and rock in your tank, I use it for my fuge and my skimmer as well as my topoff and kalk drip. I turn my water about 6 times an hour, I was up to 10 or 12 times an hour at one point but my skimmer removed only half of what it does today. You don't need major flow through the sump. Just alot of movement in the tank.

This is an excellent point. I was focusing on a 800-900 gph return from my basement (where my sum is, 10' total head back up)..but I"m thinking now maybe I should not focus so much on that, but perhaps add a closed loop system to the tank.

I dislike powerheads in the tank, but was wondering if I could place a powerhead at the bottom of the overflow, then t that off to the right and left side of the tank using a scwd perhaps (or seaswirl) to alternate current. I could place a pretty powerful powerhead in the overflow, I think, as long as the overflow can keep up with the lost water from both this powerhead and 1" overflow I'd have pretty decent circulation... let's say 500-600 gph from the return (sump) plus 900-1000 gph from the powerhead placed in the overflow, split off to returns in the rear corners of the tank.

The added benefit of this configuration is that if one of the pumps fails, the other should still be chugging to provide at least some water flow (instead of relying on one pump from the sump).
 
zzzeeeeee aquarium izzzzzzzzz herrreee !!!!!
I feel I got the perfect size tank and furniture for my apartment.

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gooliver said:
zzzeeeeee aquarium izzzzzzzzz herrreee !!!!!
I feel I got the perfect size tank and furniture for my apartment.

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Looks great! Are you going to notch out additional slots from your overflow? I've heard about taking every other slot out to increase waterflow into the overflow on the top. I have a gutter leaf protector that I'm going to drape over the top to prevent various things from getting into the overflow, but even if snails do get in there I've heard they are OK and come back out eventually.
 
lucky...i do not plan to modify anything until i see what kind of flow i will get with the standard equipment. My gut feeling is that the seaswirl and 800 GPH would be fine. I may just end up popping out the two side cutouts on the overflow and putting a eggcrate on there for increase flow - i will not cut out more holes.

I will definetely post more pics as i go along.

As such:

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gooliver said:
lucky...i do not plan to modify anything until i see what kind of flow i will get with the standard equipment. My gut feeling is that the seaswirl and 800 GPH would be fine. I may just end up popping out the two side cutouts on the overflow and putting a eggcrate on there for increase flow - i will not cut out more holes.

I will definetely post more pics as i go along.

As such:

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Great -that's a good idea, although for now I'm probably going to use that return that is supplied... I'm seriously thinking of putting another powerhead in the overflow itself to just do a closed loop for extra flow...going to the left/right corners of the tank, or maybe one seaswirl on each. Not sure.

I just purchased a lot of plumbing that i'll need for my sump. Btw this is the design I have so far.

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I was trying to make a larger return because I won't have an auto top off at the start...so I broke the skimmer out into a separate section, will be a rubbermaid container, a 5 gal bucket or something..not sure yet, but anyway I'm not thinking that is giong to present any issues.

Feedback desired!
 
looks good :)

Well...turns out the canopy design is not what i wanted...it didnt have the front flip and it didnt cover the entire aquarium tint...went back to jeff's exotic fish and they'll have the right canopy back in a week...tomorrow i will be filling it with RO water and will start to test all the plumbing \ sump.

gooliver
 
gooliver said:
looks good :)

Well...turns out the canopy design is not what i wanted...it didnt have the front flip and it didnt cover the entire aquarium tint...went back to jeff's exotic fish and they'll have the right canopy back in a week...tomorrow i will be filling it with RO water and will start to test all the plumbing \ sump.

gooliver

Terrific!! I'm working on my electrical wiring (new circuit for the tank), maybe will have the plumbing work done in a week or so. I'm taking my time on this.

Gooliver the Hamilton lights you have - they are 5" total in height? Do you have them resting right on the frame of your tank, or will they be attached to the canopy?
 
luckycat... what are you going to try and use (if anything) to prevent microbubbles getting into the return pump and into the display tank? On the diagram you dont have anything (baffles) drawn in to stop the bubbles.
Maybe you could add a baffle section at the far right of the return section. This would decrease the volume of water in your return/evaporation area.
Just figured I would point that out.
 
JustOneMoreTank said:
luckycat... what are you going to try and use (if anything) to prevent microbubbles getting into the return pump and into the display tank? On the diagram you dont have anything (baffles) drawn in to stop the bubbles.
Maybe you could add a baffle section at the far right of the return section. This would decrease the volume of water in your return/evaporation area.
Just figured I would point that out.

Yeah i was wondering about that too..I could certainly add baffles there...I guess I'm not familiar with where these microbubbles come from... or if they would be eliminated by chance when going from the protein skimmer separate tank to the main sump?

If they are a side-effect of the ps, maybe I could do something in the ps section to eliminate the microbubbles...
 
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